Question: keep W/D alive by freezing?
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Yes, Im going to do a slow normal filter cycle just to be sure everything is up and running right for my bigger fish.ITHURTZ;1583307; said:
However I still believe that you can see lots of the BioLife in a filter turn up to not have died just because they got a little cold.
I think great heating will kill such bio life, but cold?....thats where I tend to believe that I dont really make anything all that sterilized just by setting it out in my cold porch.
well, the filter was drained before I could carry it up the stairs and out to the porch.
The filter media is mostly just pot scrubbers and open cell foam.
On the other hand, I tend to think that any bio-life that might have been frozen deep inside a block of ice would be more likely to be protected by this ice covering with a greater chance of life in the spring compared to bio-life left out in the cold winter wind.
I have no facts to back that up, but it just seems that a thick layer of ice would act as a means to protect the bio-life from any harm from the cold air.
I think that winter air here is colder than ice ever gets.
(I just ran out to check the temp of my porch. Right now it's -21 below zero out there)
The filter media is mostly just pot scrubbers and open cell foam.
On the other hand, I tend to think that any bio-life that might have been frozen deep inside a block of ice would be more likely to be protected by this ice covering with a greater chance of life in the spring compared to bio-life left out in the cold winter wind.
I have no facts to back that up, but it just seems that a thick layer of ice would act as a means to protect the bio-life from any harm from the cold air.
I think that winter air here is colder than ice ever gets.
(I just ran out to check the temp of my porch. Right now it's -21 below zero out there)
bacteria lives in the artic/anartic what is so crazy bout leveing your barrel like you said with water in it let it freez.it isnt going any place i fool with mushroos alot and have to have a very sterile enviroment for them. the only way i know of to kill bacteria is heat or chemicals i say give it a shot whats to loose? absouluty nothing ! rock on dude!
how about million years of adaptation? Someone go cycle there tank from artic bacteria. Ill publish a book on it.
Come on people. Everybody knows that when you shut down your wet/dry that all of the bacteria will die in a few hours and the only way to get them back is for the bacteria fairy to show up and sprinkle some new ones on it. 
Sounds like Dr. Joe has a university study to prove that they die from freezing. I'd like to see the report as it would be an interesting read.
But at normal human living temperatures I find it extremely hard to believe that they die just because a filter is shut down for an extended period of time. I'll bet my paycheck that they just go into a dormant state. Maybe someday I'll find the time to test this theory with my 10 gallon. Take all of the water out and let it all dry up for a few months, fill it back up and see how long it takes for the nitrogen cycle to get kicking again versus how long it took when it was all brand new. And of course using the same bio load.
Sounds like Dr. Joe has a university study to prove that they die from freezing. I'd like to see the report as it would be an interesting read.
But at normal human living temperatures I find it extremely hard to believe that they die just because a filter is shut down for an extended period of time. I'll bet my paycheck that they just go into a dormant state. Maybe someday I'll find the time to test this theory with my 10 gallon. Take all of the water out and let it all dry up for a few months, fill it back up and see how long it takes for the nitrogen cycle to get kicking again versus how long it took when it was all brand new. And of course using the same bio load.
actually, Im going to be really running a little test all on my own anyway, so i could find out.
right now my pond is not set up as all the water is drained and all the media in the filter is frozen out in the unheated shop.
My plan is to get the pond going in about a month when it's warm enough not to freeze the water.
I could just add new tap water, add the ant-Clor stuff, and turn on the pump to see if a test of the water in 2 weeks shows that the filter is up and running without adding any bio-life from the store of fish to the pond?
If the pond water test show that the filter is working, then that would seem to prove that some bio-life was able to come back to life from a frozen state.
(perhaps not all the biolife, but some)
right now my pond is not set up as all the water is drained and all the media in the filter is frozen out in the unheated shop.
My plan is to get the pond going in about a month when it's warm enough not to freeze the water.
I could just add new tap water, add the ant-Clor stuff, and turn on the pump to see if a test of the water in 2 weeks shows that the filter is up and running without adding any bio-life from the store of fish to the pond?
If the pond water test show that the filter is working, then that would seem to prove that some bio-life was able to come back to life from a frozen state.
(perhaps not all the biolife, but some)
