Questions on breeding discus...
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I know nothing about breeding angel fish, not my thing. However, discus eggs don't take fertilization well in hard water, so the hatch rate is usually very low.
so discus eggs are more sensitive and will harden faster than other fishes eggs?? I have kept discus before with no problem in my tap water, but have no clue about breeding. Has anyone bred Discus in water with a PH around 7.8?? What is the highest ph that anyone has been successful in breeding discus?
They will lay eggs if the PH is between 6.5 to 7.0, you can do this buy using Wardley Bullseye 6.5 or 7.0
I found this useful link about breeding Anglefish, this is what it said below
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http://www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/breeding/angelfishbreeding.html
Angelfish prefer laying on vertically inclined surfaces, so the slate can be leaned upright against the side of the tank. Really, any upright surface will suffice, as there are plenty of specialty breeding cones and other devices out there. Slate is cheap and easy to work with.
Keep a close eye on the pair, as they can get rather boisterous during breeding time.
Condition the pair with high-quality foods at a temperature around 75 degrees. Raising the temp slowly to around 78-82 after a few days should induce the pair to spawn. Softer water and a neutral or lower pH are ideal (under 400ppm GH and pH 6.5-7.0) for spawning angels, though they are adaptable and will spawn in a wide variety of conditions in most cases. The water softness is much more imperative for proper egg development, especially if you choose to let them attempt parent raising.
Removing the eggs or leaving them to allow the parents to raise them is at your personal discretion. Angels are mostly quite far from their natural habitats, and often will be poor parents, eating the first few spawns. Many pairs will pick up the parenting trait after a few attempts, and allowing them to raise the fry is easier than artificially rearing them on your own. If the parents are good, they will take care of keeping the eggs clean and move the fry around as needed.
I found this useful link about breeding Anglefish, this is what it said below
.
http://www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/breeding/angelfishbreeding.html
Angelfish prefer laying on vertically inclined surfaces, so the slate can be leaned upright against the side of the tank. Really, any upright surface will suffice, as there are plenty of specialty breeding cones and other devices out there. Slate is cheap and easy to work with.
Keep a close eye on the pair, as they can get rather boisterous during breeding time.
Condition the pair with high-quality foods at a temperature around 75 degrees. Raising the temp slowly to around 78-82 after a few days should induce the pair to spawn. Softer water and a neutral or lower pH are ideal (under 400ppm GH and pH 6.5-7.0) for spawning angels, though they are adaptable and will spawn in a wide variety of conditions in most cases. The water softness is much more imperative for proper egg development, especially if you choose to let them attempt parent raising.
Removing the eggs or leaving them to allow the parents to raise them is at your personal discretion. Angels are mostly quite far from their natural habitats, and often will be poor parents, eating the first few spawns. Many pairs will pick up the parenting trait after a few attempts, and allowing them to raise the fry is easier than artificially rearing them on your own. If the parents are good, they will take care of keeping the eggs clean and move the fry around as needed.
cgronko;3099837; said:
Natural instincts for some discus they will not lay eggs if the PH is below or higher then 6.0 or 6.5, and for the eggs to be laid and not die the temp needs to be maintained at 90F to 92F (I've read some keep it at 86F to 88F) in order for the eggs and the fry to survive.
PH Has nothing to due with breeding Domestic Discus.Also temp should 82-84 for breeding.You will cause more problems with Discus messing with the water.
Check the KH and GH as well. pH is not the only factor to be considered around. Hardness levels are far more important than pH itself.
I am with texasdiscusman I have been breeding discus for 12 years and do not mess with my water other than it is R.O. I do not add any chemicals to my tanks either. I keep my temp around 84 degrees and my Conductivity is around 80 using a Myron Conductivity meter. If you only have a TDS meter get the water around 90-100. I let all my Discus parent raise because there is no time to do this artificially since I don't have the time to stay home all day.
Hey George,
I live in arizona as well, do you keep all your discus in R.O. water or only your breeding pairs?? Oh yeah, by the way i have some nice EBJD's that are almost an inch now. I think i asked you a few months back if you were interested in a trade for some. If you still are, they should be ready in a couple of weeks. I would LOVE some pinoy, not sure if you would even want to sell them though. I would love to see some pics of your Pinoys, if you have any. Ill post a pic of my EBJD fry, they are just starting to color up.
I live in arizona as well, do you keep all your discus in R.O. water or only your breeding pairs?? Oh yeah, by the way i have some nice EBJD's that are almost an inch now. I think i asked you a few months back if you were interested in a trade for some. If you still are, they should be ready in a couple of weeks. I would LOVE some pinoy, not sure if you would even want to sell them though. I would love to see some pics of your Pinoys, if you have any. Ill post a pic of my EBJD fry, they are just starting to color up.
Pellegrino80;3099948; said:
Completely untrue. I see discus with eggs in hard alkaline water almost everyday.