R.I.P Sturgeon

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo

grmanrocks

Jack Dempsey
MFK Member
Apr 22, 2006
1,237
17
38
Fishville
i lost my baby sturgeon this afternoon, when i got home he was rather pale so i was a little worried. and when i got home from buying him some worms i saw every fish keepers worst nightmare, no gill movement......................

i knew he was gonna die when i bought him but i thought id try and give him a new lease on life, i tried my best.......................
ive never been this struk my a loss before, especially one i knew i was gonna loose.........

thanks everyone that tried to help, he went out in true ]v[ONSTER fashion, he held on till the end,he was actualy doing good.........

now excuse me while i go cry...... no really im kinda bummed...............


:rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip

:rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip :rip
 
Thats really sad to hear.....It has been a bad week. I just lost my little pickerel monday morning. Very sad.....it was good that you did all you could to save him though.

Chad
 
Maybe you can explain the mentality being your purchase to me. Why would you purchase a fish that you expected to lose? Especially one that you likely never had the proper space requirements for in the first place. This is as irresponsible an act as I can imagine. No decent fishkeeper would ever buy a fish that they had no intention of keeping alive and providing an environment where the fish could thrive.

If you bought the fish simply because you were doing it some sort of favor by removing it from the fish shop, then this is flawed thinking as well. All you do by purchasing such a fish is prolonging their situation. If the fish shop buys some fish and they just sit there, they are not likely to buy more, but if someone buys them they will replace them with new fish. This is a fish that should not be offered in fish shops in the first place.
 
Sorry to hear :(
 
ksiaquatics;542921; said:
Maybe you can explain the mentality being your purchase to me. Why would you purchase a fish that you expected to lose? Especially one that you likely never had the proper space requirements for in the first place. This is as irresponsible an act as I can imagine. No decent fishkeeper would ever buy a fish that they had no intention of keeping alive and providing an environment where the fish could thrive.

If you bought the fish simply because you were doing it some sort of favor by removing it from the fish shop, then this is flawed thinking as well. All you do by purchasing such a fish is prolonging their situation. If the fish shop buys some fish and they just sit there, they are not likely to buy more, but if someone buys them they will replace them with new fish. This is a fish that should not be offered in fish shops in the first place.

he was at a pet store and they had like ten in a tiny tank and the water was like 90 degrees:eek: ...so he went home and thought about it, set up a rubber maid container and went back to save them, when he got there there was only one (1) left. so he bought it and took it home. after carring for it for i guess i lil over a week or so (not sure) giving it all kinds of meds and when it started feeding and looking healthy, it died!:( ....he wasnt planning on keeping it, just fostering it for awhile till he could find a good home....so if you ask me, that sounds pretty resposible.
 
nativelover;543036; said:
he was at a pet store and they had like ten in a tiny tank and the water was like 90 degrees:eek: ...so he went home and thought about it, set up a rubber maid container and went back to save them, when he got there there was only one (1) left. so he bought it and took it home. after carring for it for i guess i lil over a week or so (not sure) giving it all kinds of meds and when it started feeding and looking healthy, it died!:( ....he wasnt planning on keeping it, just fostering it for awhile till he could find a good home....so if you ask me, that sounds pretty resposible.

I do not understand this "rescue" mentality..you can not "rescue" a sturgeon from an LFS you will most likely just prolong it's slow demise and eventual death. Sturgeon are rather tricky fish in the first place and very few fry ever really survive in captivity under standard aquarium conditions. I have kept sturgeon for many years on a proffesional basis and the mortality of fry is astoundingly high. Even if the fish looks like it is doing well they often just up and die anyhow. These fish are not for the average home aquarist no matter how well intentioned they may feel they are. A Good intention is not always the best action to take and it is not always the responsible action to take.

Anyone wishing to "rescue" a fish really needs to know about what it is they are "Rescueing" in the first place. If you have to ask more than one question about the fish you are not in the position to "Rescue" it. It is best to pass it by and just forget it. It is always irresponsable to accept a fish that you have little ability to keep.

I agree entirely with KSI that it is irresponsable to even buy one of these fish especially if you are not prepared for it and have neither the knowledge base or resources that are needed to properly care for and house it for life.

The point of it not being kept for long is moot when clearly the experiance or resources were not there to really house this fish in the first place.

Lesson: do not "rescue" fish you have no business "rescuing" and then cry about it.

Sorry to be blunt and maybe a bit hard but I hope this is a lesson well learned and maybe, hopefully, someone else will think twice before trying to "rescue" a fish of this sort. You can not "Rescue" fish when you are not properly equipped in the first place to deal with it.
 
sturgeon arent as hard to keep if youve got a pond. sorry bout your loss. they can be quite personable little fish
 
Polypterus;543159; said:
I do not understand this "rescue" mentality..you can not "rescue" a sturgeon from an LFS you will most likely just prolong it's slow demise and eventual death. Sturgeon are rather tricky fish in the first place and very few fry ever really survive in captivity under standard aquarium conditions. I have kept sturgeon for many years on a proffesional basis and the mortality of fry is astoundingly high. Even if the fish looks like it is doing well they often just up and die anyhow. These fish are not for the average home aquarist no matter how well intentioned they may feel they are. A Good intention is not always the best action to take and it is not always the responsible action to take.

Anyone wishing to "rescue" a fish really needs to know about what it is they are "Rescueing" in the first place. If you have to ask more than one question about the fish you are not in the position to "Rescue" it. It is best to pass it by and just forget it. It is always irresponsable to accept a fish that you have little ability to keep.

I agree entirely with KSI that it is irresponsable to even buy one of these fish especially if you are not prepared for it and have neither the knowledge base or resources that are needed to properly care for and house it for life.

The point of it not being kept for long is moot when clearly the experiance or resources were not there to really house this fish in the first place.

Lesson: do not "rescue" fish you have no business "rescuing" and then cry about it.

Sorry to be blunt and maybe a bit hard but I hope this is a lesson well learned and maybe, hopefully, someone else will think twice before trying to "rescue" a fish of this sort. You can not "Rescue" fish when you are not properly equipped in the first place to deal with it.

POLYPTERUS! you just suprised me, wenr toyu one of the people i turned to aid me in supplying this fish a proper habitiat.......
im entirely astonished to hear this kind of thing coming form a member of this board!

im am by no means an average fishkeeper, ive been keeping fish for 10 years includeing some rather fragile fish such as mormyrids.....
i had every intention if keeping the fish alive , althought i was prepared for the worst seeing as how the fish was in bad shape....
a good amount of my fish collection is comprised of "Rescued" fish if u will.....
pardon me if i tend to cover the asses of my fellow, slightly or largly irresponsible fellow fishkeepers and aquarists. after doing some delving into the resons this store had the fish it was a speciall order that was never picked up, so all those promising young fish were killed for no reason, and i thought even if i could save just one it would be better than letting a future monster die of bad conditions, i knew what i was getting into and only asked questions becuase if uve ever tried to do research on a not so common fish it turns out to be a major headache. and its better to have a second opinion in everything, thats why these boards exist! those of you that dissagree with my decision thats your opinoin.

alos the resources clearly were there! i set up a tank just for this fish and spent about 70 dollars of hard earned cahs attempting to restore this fish to health. i was even constidering dedicatting my new 125 gallon to this fish alone till i could find it a home, any preson that would frown upon compassion and a urge to help should be considered the scurge of the hobby.

and for the recod i got him eating, a major hurdle with sick sturgeon, and was into treating his fin rot with target meds when i lost him for unkown reasons.....

in the future i will not look for compassion and understanding from the members of this board, in the past this board has been a very prolific exchange of ideas, i guess all good thingsa must come to an end, and the asses out there always have to spoil it for everyone



the people out there like nativelover i thank for your understanding......


]v[ONSTER FISH FOREVER!
 
MonsterFishKeepers.com