Tamas don’t have as nice of pearling as cyano as well as this cross as originally for color and happened to be better pearly
Rainbow X Texas update
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Just to save you time and disappointment with crossings, anything you cross with carpintis type herichthys will end up looking like carpintis type herichthys. Their shape and color genes seem to be very dominant. Same with non bussingius amatitlania (convicts), and anything you cross with red amphilophus will peel. The peel gene is dominant.
Definitely agree I don’t plan to work with rlly any amatitliania unless I run into an amazing heart throb of a hrp lol otherwise I already have a pure cryptoheros species and obviously hybrid Tojica my friend produced
For a heart throb of an hrp you are talking to the right people. The best of the best.
Hybridfish7
‘s fry from his TUIC x bioaquatix pairing are gonna be amazing and of course
Showtimekev
super blue pures he’s trying to breed for F3 but having trouble atm with a mean male. I’m sure they’d both be willing help you out with that.
Imperial tropicals has some nice ones right now
Ime HRPs aren't the best for hybrid projects, most of their genes don't carry over
The whole iridescence thing is polygenic and weird; when crossed to black or grey convicts you get a 50/50 split of sort of iridescent blue fish and normal ones, but when crossed to nicoya peninsula (yellow) convicts you get sort of bluish fish that lack iridescence. There is some blue/cyanophore/iridophore/something gene that is always carried over but gets visually masked by other genes. It can be seen in the platinum phenotype when the leucistic gene is introduced. Ime, whatever this gene is is dominant, hence why you can cross a pink convict and a platinum and get a 50/50 split of pink and platinum fry.
When crossed to other species, the blue mixes with whatever color the other parent was, and again, the iridescence does not carry over (when crossed to nanolutea or cutteri, the resulting offspring are lime green). The only genes that carry over 100% are the red fins and blue beards.
Ime HRPs aren't the best for hybrid projects, most of their genes don't carry over
The whole iridescence thing is polygenic and weird; when crossed to black or grey convicts you get a 50/50 split of sort of iridescent blue fish and normal ones, but when crossed to nicoya peninsula (yellow) convicts you get sort of bluish fish that lack iridescence. There is some blue/cyanophore/iridophore/something gene that is always carried over but gets visually masked by other genes. It can be seen in the platinum phenotype when the leucistic gene is introduced. Ime, whatever this gene is is dominant, hence why you can cross a pink convict and a platinum and get a 50/50 split of pink and platinum fry.
When crossed to other species, the blue mixes with whatever color the other parent was, and again, the iridescence does not carry over (when crossed to nanolutea or cutteri, the resulting offspring are lime green). The only genes that carry over 100% are the red fins and blue beards.
Yeah I’ll wait till you work some out until then I’m gonna continue with the species I have and have Available XD we both know the extent of thatFor a heart throb of an hrp you are talking to the right people. The best of the best.
Yeah for sure which is why I’m not in a rush to cross them at all, I did do a Texas x Con just when I was starting out they’re all culled as well as my rainbow x con also all culled so I don’t plan to do any con or hrp crosses for awhile. In no rush I’m not impressed lol
Yeah alright. I thought this all kicked off by "just seeing if he could" with Convict x Texas? Hybridization with the end goal of breeding a miniature variety is the most ass backwards thing I've ever heard. These aren't mammals lol.I guess you’ll have to wait and see. You don’t think he has anything in mind, but clearly he has something in mind. F1 is definitely not the conclusion here. What you see here is essentially dwarfed down Cyano with very good Pure Cyano genetics I must say. To the naked eye they appear that way but they are indeed x rainbow. Knowing
From what I understand, that was the start of his jump into hybrids to see if he himself could pull it off with the fish he had at the time but of course that project is scrapped. That was just an easy project to dip his toe in with no specific goal, just experimentation. Experimentation is what we need. The more we do, the more experience we have to make accurate hypothesis and expand possibilties and find our goals within those. As far as the rest of message, idk how that is exactly backwards if you’d like to explain that opinion further. And it’s never that simple with hybrids, miniature is far from the only dimension to his end goal. Actually I agree there wouldn’t be much of a point of that if that was the only goal. You’ll just have to wait and see the coming years what gets produced. It will be far from backwards. You won’t be able to help but be impressed unless your just stubborn and stuck in your judgement.
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HybridFinatic
the coming years or do you mean decades? Every hybridization event makes line breeding a little but more difficult. This all just seems random, like a kid picking out 2 different species and wanting to cross them.I am skeptical but carry on.
