Ray birthing help

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The second pup is still stuck this morning and appears its no longer alive. I'm going to attempt to remove mom from the tank and extract the pup. Wish me luck.
Sorry to hear this and good luck on the extraction for sure!!!!
 
It's done. Pup was dead but hopefully mom will be ok. Just too big for a first time mom I guess. I didn't take any pics while doing it because I was trying to move fast for mom but took a couple of the live pup and also the one that didn't make it. Hopefully the pic isn't too graphic. I'll post them soon.
 
Aww!!! poor thing man.. The one that made it looks great tho hope mom is ok!!!
 
WOW, if you look back at some videos i have posted, i have had pups born disc first and some born tail first. Sometimes i have had them slide right out and sometimes take a minute or so, but i think maybe the difference is the male is chasing her and forces the pup out.

Crazy to hear of one getting stuck for that period of time.
 
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