For a single specimen, I think you could keep him comfortably in a 55 without tank mates. Possibly a 40 breeder, but there's a bit of debate on the boards about that.
rb in a 20gallon?
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Druu;1274196; said:
I do aggreed with you on the 55gallon however 55gallon is only 12" wide (i think) when single piranha get to 12" or bigger you want at least an 18" wide like 75 or 90gallon.
Onion01;1274381; said:
I totally disagreed with this.
First Red bellies or pygo piranha don't "shoal" they only can tolerate each other so they can still in a group. If you using "shoal" term for piranha pygo it is not the right term. They can be in a "group"
Actually if you got a single RED bellies in a 75gallon by himself for life he would be very happy do to the space and room he got for himself. Infact he will get aggressive and very very terrietorial can be finger chaser if you train him right.
I know a guy have his Caribe from 2" now 7" in a single tank by himself and super nice and aggressive.
StIcKy~RiCe;1276365; said:
Actually, I'm going to have to disagree with you there.
I have a single RBP in a 75 gallon, and he's not as happy as he was in his 29. It's completely beyond me how you "train" a fish....anyways, He's not as happy as he should be, considering he's got all that space pretty much by himself (he shares with a pleco). So we've decided to split it, and put one on each side of the barrier.
Piranhas shoal for "safety in numbers" if you have one, they are timid, because they're singled out and don't feel secure.
maybe you got different set up in the 75gallon.
here is a single caribe that been in there from 2" now its 8"
http://media.putfile.com/Caribe-Getting-Fed-Freeze-Dried-Shrimp
pygo do feel secure with they are in group because one will look out for other. IMO single piranha in a tank is much better and feel better then being in group.
Piranha known as the strongest survice. In group all have a change to get kill or eaten. just my opinion.
here is a single caribe that been in there from 2" now its 8"
http://media.putfile.com/Caribe-Getting-Fed-Freeze-Dried-Shrimp
pygo do feel secure with they are in group because one will look out for other. IMO single piranha in a tank is much better and feel better then being in group.
Piranha known as the strongest survice. In group all have a change to get kill or eaten. just my opinion.
StIcKy~RiCe;1276365; said:
there was a fish store down the street from where I used to live in brazil. They stocked piranhas. All the rbp that were kept by themselves would die after a while. Either they withered away not eating or were so scared (even after being kept in the dark) that they would glass bang until they died. The rbp kept in shoals in the display tanks did fine. As long as they were well fed, there were no casualties. They would even eat from the owners hand. They also lived with other fish and never attacked them.
I have a cave, a skull, and a ceramic brick in there, since I got my job, I'm going to start decorating that tank with more plants. either way, it was the same decor as his other tank.
Think of it this way though.
Would you rather live by yourself and risk being an easy target for someone to kill you?
OR, would you rather live in a large group of potential enemies and hope that they get picked off first?
Contrary to popular belief, pygos like having companions. be it other piranhas, or in the case of mine, a pleco or other fish who can stick up for itself.
I noticed a decrease in appetite when the pleco was removed. Less activity, and duller colors. So, I put him back in with the piranha, and his color is back, his appetite is more voracious, and he's actually venturing out of his cave during daylight hours!
An RBP would be OK in a 40, the chances of them attaining full wild length are slim to none. More is always better, considering you can never have a tank that's too big.
When it all boils down to it, most of what you're going to get will, can, and does depend on the fish you get. Some are naturally timid, others, more aggressive. Just be sure to get an active, healthy fish that puts up a good fight against being caught!! (I always seem to pick the ones who are hard to catch!!)
Think of it this way though.
Would you rather live by yourself and risk being an easy target for someone to kill you?
OR, would you rather live in a large group of potential enemies and hope that they get picked off first?
Contrary to popular belief, pygos like having companions. be it other piranhas, or in the case of mine, a pleco or other fish who can stick up for itself.
I noticed a decrease in appetite when the pleco was removed. Less activity, and duller colors. So, I put him back in with the piranha, and his color is back, his appetite is more voracious, and he's actually venturing out of his cave during daylight hours!
An RBP would be OK in a 40, the chances of them attaining full wild length are slim to none. More is always better, considering you can never have a tank that's too big.
When it all boils down to it, most of what you're going to get will, can, and does depend on the fish you get. Some are naturally timid, others, more aggressive. Just be sure to get an active, healthy fish that puts up a good fight against being caught!! (I always seem to pick the ones who are hard to catch!!)
