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thank you ianab.
but that's where i don't get it...
who is producing ammonia in a new filter with no fish? since i read some fish can not tolerate the ammonia produced during the nitrogen cycle...i thought the biological media creates it by itself..

well i do have 1 basket full of new media and i added alot of more stuff(more new media than the established media) but am i still safe? sorry just double-checking!!
 
who is producing ammonia in a new filter with no fish? since i read some fish can not tolerate the ammonia produced during the nitrogen cycle...i thought the biological media creates it by itself..
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To establish the filter cycle you HAVE to add some ammonia. That may be fish and fish food in old style cycling with fish. If you cycle with no fish, then you have to add ammonia from a bottle.

Either way, nothing happens untill there is a source of ammonia added to the tank.

Cheers

Ian
 
oh i didn't know that you add bottled ammonia!!
since i was thinking of fishless-cycling, and thinking how the heck does it get ammonia?

so as long as some of the bio media is established, it can handle the new ammonia produced by the added fish load.
how long do you think it'll take for the new media to establish?
 
Any loving fish owner knows not to rush a new tank or filter. Take your time. I let my new indoor 200 gallon pond run for two months with just goldfish before adding my sharks. I also added the water change from the tank to the pond to help. I took my time so my 17 yr old 25" ID shark would be very comfortable during his adjusting period. It took him a few months to adjust to his new pond but he was never sick. The excitment of a new tank is thrilling, patience is your best bet.
 
the fluval was shut down for a few hours. maybe 3 or 4.
but it was filled with water.

hey ianab, i think i get the cycling process now.
the reason cycling is bad for fish is since it's new bio media and none of it can convert the ammonia to nitrates right?
so as long as i have a few that convert it to nitrates i'm fine you're saying

hey bluebutcher any pics of your 2' shark?
 
Yes you have a good idea of the process but don't forget that all aquariums cycle to the bio-load. In other words it's an on going process thats never really done. As the fish grow or more fish are added the number of BB (benificial bacteria) changes as well.

One of my pet peeves is that a lot of hobbiests think that just because a tank has been cycled completely with 4 or 5 mollies that they can pull them out and toss in 8 or 9 adult Oscars...

You always want to make stock changes slowly to allow the BB to catch up to the level of the Bio-load.
 
oh so is that the reason you want to gradually add fish..like one per week?
as to not add too much fish, that the bio media can't process.

oh wait it says in the last sentence.lol
i need to read the WHOLE thing, then post
 
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