Real coral in FW?

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Thinkone;589163; said:
It seems I am haveing to say this alot but, If you see no point, DONT POST!!! You are wasting yours and my time by posting crap like this:irked: :irked: :irked: !!!! If thats how you feel about questions people ask, Then find a cave somewhere where I dont have to concern myself with your delicate ego. I didnt ask for your arrogance or your criticism. I asked for legitimate advice on a particular subject.
I cant stand people like you. Get some manners, If you dont have anything good or constructive to say, shut the :swear: up!

Thank you to everyone else who took the time and seriousely wanted to help.

PS, CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is also welcome.
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wow! what did i say!? i really dont know why u want to put live corals in ur tank.
wat the f***! note to myself. just shut up if i know nothing. geeez... there! happy now?
 
HiGhTiMeZ;589504; said:
wow! what did i say!? i really dont know why u want to put live corals in ur tank.
wat the f***! note to myself. just shut up if i know nothing. geeez... there! happy now?
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You asked what the point of "Doing this again" was and that you did not see a point. You wanted a reason, so here it is; I did not know the answer to the question and needed to know before I did harm to my fish. Is that good enough for you? Why did I get so mad?
Because I ask a question, And the reply I got was that there was no point to it. I say again, If thats how you feel about the question at hand, then please dont waste my time.If you have a comment that is CONSTRUCTIVE Please post. I seek knowledge to help care for my fish. BTW I never said LIVE coral, I said REAL coral. ( I can see where the mix up may have been) Coral skeliton, why? Because White coral on White substrate surounded by Green plants with a Black backround would look COOL. IMO

The best way to learn something you dont know is to ask someone who does. So I ask.
 
oh ok u want a white coral with a white substrate yeah i think it myt look cool! now i know why u wanted it. u did not say it on ur 1st post and thats y i asked whats the coral for. sorry pal i think we got off the wrong foot. i didnt mean to make u mad.
peace bro? *luv luv luv* :D
 
Now that all the fightings out of the way (!), if you are wanting to help lower your ph for any reason in the future, to help balance out your local waters high ph, throw some driftwood in there. There you go - something constructive!
 
Just a little info: Elemental calcium is mostly insoluble in water. To get it dissolved in water, either a strong acid must be present (low pH) or it must start in a form such as Calcium Chloride. As long as the pH is above 7.0, the calcium leaching into the water will be insignificant. To dissolve a piece of coral will take decades. I have several pieces of coral that are 20+ years old and they look like they were yanked out of the ocean yesterday.

Also, calcium dissolving into water is an endothermic reaction. It absorbs energy in the process. At higher temperatures it is less soluble and at lower temps it is more soluble.

Crushed coral as substrate is a different matter. It has a large surface volume so it is able to leach calcium into the water at a higher rate. Still it will not dissapear over the course of decades. I have some that is 15+ years old. The rate going into solution was so slow that it did not affect my fish when I was using it. Water changes kept the water hardness at the tap level.
 
Just some clarification, The effects of pH on calcium saturation is not limited at 7.0. Actually nothing significant happens there. The pH scale is divided there and that is the neutral point. At 8.0, calcium is very insoluble and will tend to precipitate. At 6.0 it is more soluble and will have a higher tendency to leach.

At stable temp and pH as in a well cared for aquarium, with regular water changes, having coral should not be a major issue.
 
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