Real "red" devils - where to find?

[tiddlywinks]

try a rose queen hybird?

 

[auratum]

That fish was more red than any of the other devils I caught out of Wilson Lake.

He maintained a nice red in tank (not quite as red as when I first caught him) due to two things beyond genetics - he got several hours of direct sunlight a day and I fed him a diet high in red swamp crayfish (think like flamingo's turning pink after eating shrimp - which are quite high in carotenoids, like the crayfish).

After seeing cichlids in outdoor ponds in Hawaii I will swear by sunlight having a DRASTIC effect on color. In my mind it goes from most important to less important - Sunlight > Genetics > Diet, with these three factors being the largest in terms of what will effect color.

I discuss more of this in this topic HERE.

Also, Hawaii customs doesn't care either way what you ship OUT OF Hawaii. They just care about what is shipped INTO Hawaii. I shipped small fish out of Hawaii with no problem. The only issue is the massive expense of shipping something over night from Hawaii to the mainland. You're looking at $200 plus for a single larger fish.

Thanks for the info. This explains alot!

So is this fish:

The same fish as this fish?

Thanks again for your thought on these fish!

 

[auratum]

try a rose queen hybird?

I haven't seen one that looks as good as MM's wild caught. It seems that the Rose Queen hybrids are more consistant in color, but not better colored. If you have pictures, I am interested in being educated.

 

[ERyan]

I would try to get a hold of the best looking orangish red one you cna find then i would purchase a t8 daylight bulb yes I know it would have a lot of algae but you might be able to mimic those deep red colors that you will see in the wild

 

[Modest_Man]

Yes, that's the same fish.

 

[auratum]

After seeing cichlids in outdoor ponds in Hawaii I will swear by sunlight having a DRASTIC effect on color. In my mind it goes from most important to less important - Sunlight > Genetics > Diet, with these three factors being the largest in terms of what will effect color.

What do you think the sunlight is doing to enhance the color? Do fish generate vitamin D like humans do when exposed to sunlight? Is it the UV part of the spectrum or the intensity of the light? Can it be simulated in an aquarium?

Do other fish respond with more vibrant colors in this same way to the sunlight?

 

[Modest_Man]

Lots of people these days "tan" their arowana's using UVA and UVB bulbs I believe. I'd say UV definitely plays a large part just based off my observations. If you Google "tanning arowanas" or "NAN lighting" you'll know as much or more than me.

I have yet to see a fish that looked better indoors than outdoors, regardless of species.

 

[the animal guy]

It is the sun. Not inside or outside.

One fish is gonna be redder than another. It depends the quality or genetic. You gotta go find that like the poster is trying to do.

The sun helps them grow too. But it could only grow so much. Just like it could only get so red.

But I agree the sun is good.

 

[Modest_Man]

It is the sun. Not inside or outside.

One fish is gonna be redder than another. It depends the quality or genetic. You gotta go find that like the poster is trying to do.

The sun helps them grow too. But it could only grow so much. Just like it could only get so red.

But I agree the sun is good.

Posting when high always yields interesting results...

 

[the animal guy]

Posting when high always yields interesting results...

what you mean?

Sorry if Im mistaking but it sounds like a smart comment


????
if that's so,
Why be like that? Hope Im just mistaking

anyway

Whatever Im saying, if you disagree, my fish is red and you can see in the video

I found it. And I raised it.




I just want to input because I have a actual red fish that I raised since a baby.

thank you. enjoy