Realistically How Big do RTC's Get..

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The difference being a 3' Jardini is going to weigh 10 pounds max and a 3' RTC is going to weigh 45 pounds .... one RTC is therefore equivalent to 3.5 Jardini's in bioload.
 
Will Hayward;4540881; said:
Is that store The Fish Place in Lockport? Is this the tank?

Photos from this thread here...

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That is it! Wow, the store looked nice in the photos.

The current stock in the tank is a 36" oxydoras niger, 2 RTCs, 2 or 3 peacock bass, some sort of shovelnose cat, an odoe pike, two large silver arowanas and a few plecos who seem to disappear for months. I remember there being gars in there, but one RTC ate one gar and we ended up selling the other so it wouldn't be eaten.

Correction though, the store is the Fish Place in North Tonawanda. Pets Plus is the LFS in Lockport.
 
Industrial;4542011; said:
That is it! Wow, the store looked nice in the photos.

The current stock in the tank is a 36" oxydoras niger, 2 RTCs, 2 or 3 peacock bass, some sort of shovelnose cat, an odoe pike, two large silver arowanas and a few plecos who seem to disappear for months. I remember there being gars in there, but one RTC ate one gar and we ended up selling the other so it wouldn't be eaten.

Correction though, the store is the Fish Place in North Tonawanda. Pets Plus is the LFS in Lockport.
Riiiiiight! i visited like 6 stores that day. Got confused. Thanks for the correction. I'd love to go back after i get my passport renewed.

It's a fantastic tank. If you look carefully in the photo you can makeout the gar. At their size its amazing anything could eat them... But redtails would find a way to use them like toothpics haha.

Do you still work there? That store was honsetly great. On my trip i picked up a few plants and two farlowella acus there.
 
With proper tank size, water quality, and feeding they can and will reach will over the 2-3' most of you see. The problem is maybe .05% of owners give them that and thus all you ever see are the 2-3' specimens. It doesn't mean they don't get as big as they do in the wild.

There is one over 5.25 feet that has lived in an Aquarium in Amsterdam since 1972 where it was introduced to the tank at under a foot. I'd say that counts as tank raised.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104062

And even a 1,000g tank would be tiny for the fish in the link above. So all this 300-450g talk is just ridiculous considering the above fish couldn't even fit inside of the openings on top of a typical 300-450g tank.
 
taksan;4541406; said:
The difference being a 3' Jardini is going to weigh 10 pounds max and a 3' RTC is going to weigh 45 pounds .... one RTC is therefore equivalent to 3.5 Jardini's in bioload.

Yeah, the OP doesn't seem to understand that. I pointed this out about his RTC to silver aro comparision in his first post. Now he's moved from silvers to jardini.:nilly:

Just looking at the body structure of a RTC, it can easily be concluded that a tank/pond should be 4x the length, width should be 2x the length of the RTC and a have a height at least equal to the fish. Like I stated before I own a 96x36x30" 450g tank, it would not be big enough to hold a 30" RTC.
 
Bderick67;4542049; said:
Yeah, the OP doesn't seem to understand that. I pointed this out about his RTC to silver aro comparision in his first post. Now he's moved from silvers to jardini.:nilly:

Just looking at the body structure of a RTC, it can easily be concluded that a tank/pond should be 4x the length, width should be 2x the length of the RTC and a have a height at least equal to the fish. Like I stated before I own a 96x36x30" 450g tank, it would not be big enough to hold a 30" RTC.

I honestly have no Idea where you saw that I compared a Jardini to an RTC but like I've said before, you do know everything dont you;)
 
I raised a RTC to about 37 inches in a 300 gallon rubber made stock tank. It worked well but the bio load was a big issue and eventually lost him in a mishap with him throwing up a big meal while i was out of town. Great fish but not an aquarium fish for the average guy.
 
Deep Blue Sea;4540831;4540831 said:
I see you have a jardini, that too is a living creature and if you want it to be provided with the best possible care go buy it a 3,000 gallon tank just for it.
Honestly these are just fish, yes you should take good care of them but you don't have to make your tank a Four Seasons Resort. Theres a difference between taking good care of your fish and treating them like kings.
If you can't provide these fish with the home they need, why even buy them in the first place? RTCs and pacus are some of the fish I wish weren't sold to the general public. So many idiots out that they they can keep them in their 135g, or even a 400g. Why even keep one of these monster cats where it can barely swim a lap, or have just enough room to turn around? I don't get the sick fascination with that.

There are many other smaller fish that would be better suited for that. If you think stuffing a big ass fish in a small tank makes you a MFKer, you are seriously mistaken.
 
Deep Blue Sea;4542416; said:
I honestly have no Idea where you saw that I compared a Jardini to an RTC but like I've said before, you do know everything dont you;)

You are the one that introduced the jardini into this thread, you gave an ill fated comparison as to what size proper tank a jardini needed.

Stay on topic or make better comparisons.
 
jcardona1;4542460; said:
If you can't provide these fish with the home they need, why even buy them in the first place? RTCs and pacus are some of the fish I wish weren't sold to the general public. So many idiots out that they they can keep them in their 135g, or even a 400g. Why even keep one of these monster cats where it can barely swim a lap, or have just enough room to turn around? I don't get the sick fascination with that.

There are many other smaller fish that would be better suited for that. If you think stuffing a big ass fish in a small tank makes you a MFKer, you are seriously mistaken.


+1, There are a ton of fish that I WANT, but they will need a much bigger tank than I might ever have. To compensate though, there are a ton of fish that are just as neat that I CAN house comfortably in the tanks I have. Do not know why this logic is not applied more often.
 
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