Red Devil & Jack Hybrid?

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kdrun76, don't be a jerk.
Nobody wants to hear someone be arrogant about their views on something like the "one inch per gallon rule"; It should be obvious to everyone here that reality is much more subjective.

eatingleg4peanut, way to go man! Sorry about your fish, but if your cichlids make babies the more the merrier, an RD/JD hybrid sounds pretty. As for the plausability, Most south american cichlids can hybridize (with certain exceptions), as things like heros, amphilophus, parachromis, vieja, cryptoheros etc, are very closeley related - most of them were formally part of the cichlasoma complex before the recent reclassification, and evidence of even fertile hybrids from different genera is the vieja and trimac obvious in some flowerhorns. I have a fish even now that is an (accidental) hybrid of a severum (heros) and a convict (now Amatitlania). I believe that it is very possible for a JD and RD to cross, as they were both formally part of cichlasoma before they moved it around, and thus are more closeley related. The offspring may even be fertile.

Good luck man, and send me a message if you need to get rid of some of the fry,
Seeing those grow into their colours would be fascinating.

As for the guy that says you're playing god letting these fish cross, everybody deserves to be loved. Hope they get along man
 
Amen just go with it and see what happens. The hell with what people say and I was in the same shoe's as you with a RB Pacu I was lucky enough to get rid of him before he had the chance to bust the tank. And your right doesnt matter what size your tank his they will bust it. But well said I'm also in a wierd situation with like you with my midas female pairing with my 8 inch Jack ( Jack the ripper). God luck with it all and srew the rest of these educated wonderful people.
 
kdrun76;4162799; said:
A 14" fish would need a tank (according to YOUR Math equation) of 56" long. A 75 gallon tank is only 48" long. Perhaps the pacu had out grown the tank after all. For that matter the red devil will out grow the tank as well, they get to be 16-18" long.

The 1" per gallon rumor is something you really should read up on. If it is to believed, a 10" oscar will be just fine in a 10 gallon tank.

A red devil and a jack dempsy are not very closely related. I really don't think they can hybridize but stranger things have happened.

Your temper tantrum is not needed. Nor will having one encourage people to help you. You are already demonstrating poor fish keeping practices, something we can help you with, but to couple that with a ranting fit at the people helping you isn't going to win you any popularity contests.
a 75 is perfect for a red devil. who ever heard of a red devil getting 18 inches? really? wow
 
i dont think just getting hybrids are necessarily playing god or as terrible as you make it. it seems bad when people do it, but in nature hybrids happen. they're just classified as a new species. i was just watching a show about a river in africa where groups of cichlids got separated from each other by the flow of the river. this lead to hybridizing and created a bunch of new species. id dont know about purposely breeding hybrids, but if it happens i dont think you should be bashed because of it
 
so did they ever breed?
 
had to revive this thread but here are 2 pics the owner claims is red devil dempsey cross idk kinda sketchy 0r.jpg0l.jpg

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such a shame someone has felt the need to pick on people on this thread. I was actually really interested in this guys story, until i spotted the nit picky comments below. As they say, it only takes one to spoil it for the rest.

But yes RD and JD can breed, fingers crossed for you
 
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