reef? or deep? in a 120g

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Miles said:
Please don't fill up the Saltwater forum here with erranous crap passed down by the 'forefathers' of aquarium mythology.

You should pick your Lionfish tankmates wisely, as 'anything the same size or greater' could be asking for problems. I know it would not be a wise choice to put a trigger or a puffer with a Lionfish. Although it has been done before, and you and your daddy have probably done it a million times, dosn't mean it is a wise choice for a beginner with little to no experience.

There are alot of options out there, so don't assume that people who have kept fish here at MFK know everything! Keep the doors open to as many all possibilities. We keep monster fish here, but mostly freshwater. Mr Comptonass here, keeps monster saltwater fish, in a very non-monsterous tank.

Perhaps do a little research on an actual reef keeping forum, before assuming that a person from Kansas, referring to himself as 'comptonass', has all the answers.

His opinion is just 1 of millions, and I find his opinions to be false in most cases. Please read up and practice proper saltwater husbandry, before you make a large investment!

Miles
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Kiss my ass your the one telling people that lionfish are hard to care for so bite me!Your the one belittling the intteligents of the fish. you think a trigger is gonna pick on a lion. I dont think so.There a little smarter than that. Lions are mean and preditory and Ive seen them fend off fish up to 10 times there size.but I bet you wouldnt think so because your the perfect aquarist and almighty. you act like your the god of salt you mental panzee. Stop being a little douche and trying to talk **** to me through a forum!
 
By the way maybe before you start talking **** again maybe you should get something besides stingrays or lionfish. Id like to see try to care for a blue ribbon like I do and guess what he is in a 240 with 2 canisters 2 powers and a gravel, but I guess thats just stupid isnt, a 240 is to smalll for that species! Miles from Spokane! and I hope you get a chance to read this before the adminastrators edit it.So I guess we should stop posting in the saltwater forum because according to you none of us know anything!
 
Mattcomptonassvanhorn said:
Lions are mean and preditory
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It is comments like this that should not belong in the saltwater forum here. This statement is absolutely false. Lionfish are indeed predators, but they are shy and reclusive fish.

All saltwater fish in general are hard to care for, to some degree.



Please do not make me request that someone with 100x more knowledge on the subject of saltwater, come to this forum. I do not know that much about saltwater, but I do know the basics. I understand proper filtration and husbandry practices. Just because your daddy owns a shop, dosn't mean he knows jack. It sounds like to me he is one of those 'This is how Ive always done it, and this is how I will always do it' kinda guys.. They are the most ignorant people I have ever met. I know multiple LFS people who run decent shops here, and they are complete fish idiots. Just because you got the info from someone you trust, does not mean it is absolutely, 100% correct. After going back through this forum, and reading a majority of your posts and comments, it further proves you do not know as much as you 'think' you know. I also find it comical that you are not 'allowed' to take pictures of a 'family' owned fish store, which leads me to believe you are even more full of it. It is also funny how your tank sizes, and tankmates often change from day to day.

This is really not the place to argue, but if you don't know WTF you are talking about, please don't splatter out some random garble all over the SW section. If you 'think' you know what you are talking about, just assume that the information given to you was false, and you should do more research. Have you ever tried reading?

Please, share your wisdom on how 'fish grow to the size of their tank' some more, so people can further understand the ignorance which has been embedded into your thought process.

FYI, for every retarded and false comment you make, I will be right here to dispute it. I will also back my statements with phsyical and scientific evidence, rather then 'Thats what Pa told me!"..

MFK members should have the opinion of more then one person, and they should also have the ability to make their own judgement, as well as have references to help them make proper decisions. Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and most of them stink. Unfortunetly we have a 'know it all' that 'all it knows' is everything that has been told unto him, is absolutely correct.

My advice is in the best interest of Saltwater Fauna, and MFK members in general. MFK Members - Please do not listen to ignorant statements, without actually doing proper research and finding definitive answers.

If anyone has a specific question, please PM me and I will help you find a resource that will help with exactly what you are looking for!

Miles
 
first of all my father dos not own a fish shop. I never said that. you look through all 200+ posts and threads I have written, and you will see no where that Ive said that, and second of all where have I claimed to know everything! All I know is what 20+ years of saltwater fishkeeping have taught me. You may think that lionfish are shy while I dont. Maybe with there own kind! but from my personal experience I have never seen another fish besides a lion pick on a lion, and as for all your wisecracks about my " pa" He has kept salt and fresh for over 40 years. WHich you claim to know everything scientificle and moral about salt. You have 1/4 the experience of him. He has gone through as many different situations as you can imagine.( Some good and bad) and I have never and I quote pushed my opinion upon some one. I have given them sugestions from my past experience, and I will never do that. and yes I have made a couple of rude comments. 9/10 of them were to you and one that I made to bluedempsey which I apologize for. but as for you Miles I wont apologize to you any more, and by the way for every post of mine you have to protest Ill be right here to tell you to kiss my ass. why dont you go hav sex with your stingray that has found his way into your heart. :hearts: :hearts:
 
guys guys i think i have an idea but dont get pissy. the fish hobby is more like trial and error, not so much of the books. you cant rely on just the books you have to try everything out or ask around to different ppl and see what they have done. ive messed around with fish for over 10years and people tell me and cant put this fish with that, do this or that and i do it any way and then there are different outcomes. you just have to try different things, and not rely on the bs that are put in books.
 
well i HATE to say this but miles is right. i just dont like the way he belittles some people to try and get his point across. you always talk about the hillbillys that say " hey pa, can we have that there fish pa" like everyone on here is a red neck. you may have some knowledge under your belt miles as i have argued with you before. i dont doubt you. but to tell this guy off like that is lame. just makes us all think your an ass with an ego trip trying to prove something. just tell people politely. mr compton. i have seen quite a few lions disemboweled by triggers and puffers. they make short work of those spines. on the other hand i have seen some MONSTER lions that most sane fish would stay away from. problem is triggers are not sane, and their cousins the puffers are not far behind. a flame angel would be a joke with anything but a very small lion. point is lets just love eachother no need for all this hate. cant we all just get along. hahahahahahahah. thanks for your knowledge miles. not picking on ya bro. ......ok maybe just a little. all in good fun.
 
I am just trying to make sure MFK members are getting a fair shot at correct information, that's all.
 
ROCK ON MILES!!!!!!! thanks for looking out for all of us bro. we need a lot of good eyes out there to edit the bull****. people need honest answers. just deliver em a little easier for some of the pussies out there.
 
Central, a flame angel is a bad idea? that figures, well at least i said im not 100% sure... It was on some compatibility site, thanks for the tip though, i'm hoping to start my tank soon enough and i probably would've thrown one right in. Cool Cool.
 
I dont act like I know everything. and when ever someone leaves an opinion or a personal experiences with fish Miles has to come in and put them down make them sound like an idiot. Its not my fault he has to act like a butthole to everyone. Books only contain about 1 millionth of all the fish info. The only way you can truly know what you are doing is by experience and years and years of experience. So Miles when you get about 40 years more of experience then Ill start to take you seriously, and Im sick and tired of ruining these peoples threads because you want to bs everyone. Miles you keep fish your way and Ill keep mine my way and if you want to bs me then pm me and leave all these other people out of it just trying to get fish info. The info I leave is my experince Ive kept lions with triggers in perfect harmony, and I have never seen a trigger pick on a lion without getting itself killed afterwords. I need to stop replying to you Miles because I keep getting my post count reduced and at this rate I wont be able to see pictures.
 
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