Regarding Wolf Fish, Payara, and African Tigers...

[jelly]

In that size tank a curupira or a lacadae will be fine with other large fish. curupira is a better option as it is not so nocturnal so it will be active and swim around in the day light. If you have a look at the youtube link in post above you can see the wolf getting along fine with the others and swimming mid water.

If I had a spare 8' of that size I would probably do one of a three options.

1. Hoplias curupira, 2 x Armatus and a Cat of some sort, Tigrinus or something like that. 3 or 4 brycon to add some motion to the tank.

2. Hoplias curupira, 2 x Dorado, 2 or 3 Brycon species and a Cat of some sort, Tigrinus or something like that. Dorado's are brutish beasts that have a real presence and are constantly on the move.

3. A group of gold wolves, a group of Tats and a shoal of dollars. I would then add two or three really nice plecs. L25's or something like that.

I need a spare 8' now, or one less aimara

 

[AU_Arowana-RG]

Sweet! Thanks for the tips. I'm not all too familiar with Brycons, but I'm loving what I see in them.

What species are commonly available? And what species in particular can we class the Gold Wolves as for species Identification purposes?

 

[jlnguyen74]

I could pretty much guarentee that an aimara will go for anything put in the same tank including maintainance equipment.

I only speak from my personal experience!

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349302

Aimara is defensive, not aggressive... Don't confuse and mislead other.

 

[Loubard]

I only speak from my personal experience!

Aimara is defensive, not aggressive... Don't confuse and mislead other.

Same go's for you, your case is more or less unique while what jelly is saying is the common experience..you cannot claim it will always go well, you tank is big, has a high stock and maybe your fish has a relaxed personality..

 

[AU_Arowana-RG]

Isn't that Aimara also quite small?

 

[jelly]

I only speak from my personal experience!

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349302

Aimara is defensive, not aggressive... Don't confuse and mislead other.

Could you elaberate on what you mean by defensive, not aggressive

Aggression is a subjective term and can be applied to predatory aggression i.e. feeding and territorial/defensive aggression, In most conversations about aggression it is the territorial aggression we are talking about, in the context of this thread I think it’s obvious that we are not talking about putting fish small enough to be eaten together, we are talking about 'defensive/territorial' aggression so to say my comment was misleading or confusing was incorrect.

I am also speaking from personal expearence and every other example I have seen. I would suggest yours is a very rare and awesume achievement.

To say an aimara is defensive and not aggressive is 'misleading', they are aggressive in every context of the word. Even in an 8’ tank it would be very bad idea to put anything with one. I have a 17” aimara and have had incidence of it attacking me and anything that enters the water including rocks, in fact I have a 10” example that is probably worse. I don't think this 10"er would go for a Cichla as large as the ones in your tank but given some time to put some size on I am confident it would start to attack them.

I like what you have done with yours and it would be very cool if it continues to work but I suspect it was added after the majority of the rest of the fish, It looks like a very large tank and a small immature aimara, for you to say that aimara is defensive suggest to me that you have seen some defensive aggression from yours even at it’s relatively small size and given time to get larger I am sure things will change and get progressively worse. I am pretty sure if I dropped my larger one in there and given a couple of days to settle it would start to attack.

 

[jelly]

Sweet! Thanks for the tips. I'm not all too familiar with Brycons, but I'm loving what I see in them.

What species are commonly available? And what species in particular can we class the Gold Wolves as for species Identification purposes?

Gold wolves are Hoplerythrinus unitaeniatus.

Brycons commonly available are hilarii, cephalus and melanopterus, there are lots more. some are much more aggresive than others, dentex and whitie are examples of these.

Looking forward to seeing you kick this off in the future.

 

[jlnguyen74]

Could you elaberate on what you mean by defensive, not aggressive

Aggression is a subjective term and can be applied to predatory aggression i.e. feeding and territorial/defensive aggression, In most conversations about aggression it is the territorial aggression we are talking about, in the context of this thread I think it’s obvious that we are not talking about putting fish small enough to be eaten together, we are talking about 'defensive/territorial' aggression so to say my comment was misleading or confusing was incorrect.

I am also speaking from personal expearence and every other example I have seen. I would suggest yours is a very rare and awesume achievement.

To say an aimara is defensive and not aggressive is 'misleading', they are aggressive in every context of the word. Even in an 8’ tank it would be very bad idea to put anything with one. I have a 17” aimara and have had incidence of it attacking me and anything that enters the water including rocks, in fact I have a 10” example that is probably worse. I don't think this 10"er would go for a Cichla as large as the ones in your tank but given some time to put some size on I am confident it would start to attack them.

I like what you have done with yours and it would be very cool if it continues to work but I suspect it was added after the majority of the rest of the fish, It looks like a very large tank and a small immature aimara, for you to say that aimara is defensive suggest to me that you have seen some defensive aggression from yours even at it’s relatively small size and given time to get larger I am sure things will change and get progressively worse. I am pretty sure if I dropped my larger one in there and given a couple of days to settle it would start to attack.

From my observation, Aimara shows aggression when house solitare in a tank. Same goes with mine, before I purchased it, attack previous owner, huff and puff when people around tank, attack net. However, after I purchased it, and introduced it in my tank, it has behaved very well. It's currently 12"-14", and I have an 8"-9" clown loach in the same tank, without any problem. It doesn't bother anyone in the tank. I recently added 3 more hoplias to the tank two weeks ago. It chased them on the first two days, when they get near it, but everything is back to peaceful since the third day for almost two weeks already.

 

[jlnguyen74]

Same go's for you, your case is more or less unique while what jelly is saying is the common experience..you cannot claim it will always go well, you tank is big, has a high stock and maybe your fish has a relaxed personality..

Like I said, I don't go with "maybe." I go by what I observe.

Isn't that Aimara also quite small?

Quite small for the tank, but not quite small for other tank mate. There are only a handful of p-bass, and a handful of bichirs in that tank that are same size with it, four arowana that are longer than it. The rest are smaller.

 

[AU_Arowana-RG]

Gold wolves are Hoplerythrinus unitaeniatus.

Brycons commonly available are hilarii, cephalus and melanopterus, there are lots more. some are much more aggresive than others, dentex and whitie are examples of these.

Looking forward to seeing you kick this off in the future.

Thanks for the tips.

Am currently formulating other possible stock for the tank.