Releasing native aquarium fish

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this is all good in theory, but as soon as someone "accidentally" something not native it gets bad quick. IMO better to just tell everyone not to do it than to tell people to actually use their brains. im sure all the animals released that have taken over were not released with bad intent, yet we have carp by the million, snakeheads, pythons and snails doing damage and costing millions in damage and control.

This is my opinion as well. People who can use their brains by all means can and should, but I have some reservations about publicizing my native hobby.

I don't think native keeping should be encouraged to "average" fish keepers. On this site, I am comfortable sharing my fish because I know most members here go above and beyond with their fish and won't screw anything up. I would just hope that word of how fun natives can be never circulates to the people who think a 55 gallon will suffice for a redtail cat because those are people who I think could be dangerous for our waterways.


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If a disease in a tank would kill fish if introduced to the wild, it would affect the fish I bring home the same way. The fish you decide to keep aren't magically immune to a disease in a new tank so their buddies will be able to survive it if they can.

interesting. so you're saying...
no one or everyone dies from chickenpox.

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so thousands get chicken pox, but only 105 people die each year...

all dogs or no dogs die from canine distemper...

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again, your theory doesn't hold true.

or if you want to get technical about it-
Genetically similar VHSV isolates are differentially virulent in olive flounder Paralichthys olivaceus.
Two viral hemorrhagic septicemia virus (VHSV) isolates, VHSV-KR-CJA and VHSV-KR-YGH, were isolated from viral hemorrhagic septicemia disease outbreaks in flounder farms in South Korea. The VHSV-KR-CJA isolate was isolated from a flounder farm with high mortality (80%), while the VHSV-KR-YGH isolate was isolated from a flounder farm with low mortality (15%), suggesting that these isolates differ in virulence. The virulence of these isolates was evaluated in juvenile flounder via intraperitoneal injection. Consistent with their virulence in the field, mortality data revealed that the VHSV-KR-CJA isolate was highly pathogenic (cumulative mortality of 80%), while the VHSV-KR-YGH isolate was less pathogenic in flounder (cumulative mortality of 20%). To characterize the genotypes of these viruses, the full open reading frames (ORFs) encoding nucleoprotein N, phosphoprotein P, matrix protein M, glycoprotein G, nonstructural viral protein NV, and polymerase L of these viruses were sequenced and analyzed. Sequence analysis revealed that both isolates are genetically very similar (identical amino acid sequences for P, M, NV, and L and >99.7 and 99.8% amino acid sequence identity for N and G, respectively). Phylogenetic analysis indicated that both of these viruses belong to the Genotype IVa group, suggesting that they originated from a common ancestral virus. The low pathogenicity VHSV strain may potentially evolve to become a more pathogenic strain through only a few nucleotide substitutions. Further functional analyses of mutations in VHSV genes are necessary to identify factors that determine VHSV pathogenicity in flounder.


and how about cross contamination? there are plenty of species that can carry disease and transfer to another species, reptiles commonly transfer salmonella to humans, fleas transfer bubonic plague from rodents to humans.
who's to say that fish you just released isn't carrying tuberculosis, dropsey, vibrosis, or fin rot bacteria that is able, or has mutated enough to infect another fish, bird, or reptile when eaten. there's plenty of nasties that live in an aquarium and don't necessarily manage to infect the fish but still are hitching a ride on their skin, or in their poop.
 
Im with gill blue. If you keep wc fish with your aquarium fish, the wc fish may pick up amd continue to be a carrier for any number of diseases. The wc fish you have may be fine but what could it expose other natives to? How would they handle such exposures?

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Im with gill blue. If you keep wc fish with your aquarium fish, the wc fish may pick up amd continue to be a carrier for any number of diseases. The wc fish you have may be fine but what could it expose other natives to? How would they handle such exposures?

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I'm not keeping anything else but natives in this tank.


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I mean if you're really bored of a native fish, just freeze it or use it as live or fresh dead bait. I use live fish as bait all of the time, whats the difference if you keep it in a tank for a little bit before you use it as bait then? (although it is illegal to use sportfish as bait, and all centrachids are considered sportfish. I use small blue gills, and cut bull gills as bait to catch bowfin, bass, gars, and catfish... but shhhh haha)

At least you're not throwing a live possible vector for diseases, and at least your not wasting a fish completely. Like I said just don't get into some kind of weird habit it of keeping fish for a short while and getting bored of them.
 
Also, when I have had fish that die from natural causes, or jump out of the tank. I donate them to my University to keep in there preserved Ichthyology collection. Maybe you could just donate the fish, live or preserved.
 
I'm not keeping anything else but natives in this tank.

way to defend your theory.
there's plenty of scientific reasons not to return kept fish to nature and the best reason you have to defend it is that only natives are in that tank?
what if the food you fed them is contaminated? there have been 23 recalls just for dog food since january of this year. you really think the fish food industry is that much cleaner/sanitary?
 
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