****, with the water puking..that is why I asked in the beginning....
I much prefer Marbofloxacin....talk to your vet.
Does he look dehydrated?
I much prefer Marbofloxacin....talk to your vet.
Does he look dehydrated?
Respiratory Infection New Blood Python
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No, I don't Mary.
I think he has a serious RI and I start to think that the antibiotic is having no effect.
I have had good results with Cefoxitin and Marbofloxacin.
Can't tell you the % though, as well as the quantity because it is related to the snake's weight.
I think he has a serious RI and I start to think that the antibiotic is having no effect.
I have had good results with Cefoxitin and Marbofloxacin.
Can't tell you the % though, as well as the quantity because it is related to the snake's weight.
Well he died a little while ago. I came home to check on him and he seemed okay, I took him out for a min or two to check his mouth for discharge and stuck him back in the waterbowl and closed the container and he was ****ing dead 10 minutes later. I can't get anyone who put on the herp show to respond to my calls or emails so I that might get in contact with person I bought him from. So I have a mountain of vet bills and a dead baby snake.
Lessons learned: Buy from reputable breeder, listen to snakes breathing before you pay, get receipt and health warranty. Hope someone reading this thread in the future learns from my stupidity.
Lessons learned: Buy from reputable breeder, listen to snakes breathing before you pay, get receipt and health warranty. Hope someone reading this thread in the future learns from my stupidity.
Otolith;4618168; said:
Do not punish yourself.
Everybdoy makes mistakes and you, at least, did your best.
You will be a herp keeper, I sense.
And yes. Do buy , ONLY, from reputed breeders. ( you have a lot of those stateside)
Aeromonis, or Aeromonas?
Aeromonas is a zoonotic disease, you could have caught it if you slipped on hygiene. I recommend finding a reptile experienced veterinarian, he should have warned you of the danger.
A vet who gives antibiotics to put in water is not worth his weight in salt.
He perscribed an antibiotic that is touch and go, might as well have thrown penicillin at it. Not all aero spp. are susceptible to what he prescribed. 100 percent of all a. caviae are susceptible to trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole, he should have given you this prepared for sub QT. With such rapid loss of fluids, saline injections should have been administered.
If he claimed the aero was the culprit for an RI, he was wrong. Entrobacter was to blame for the pulmonary distress, aero for the weight loss. Aero was the main threat to the animals well being, this is what finished off your snake.
Sidenote, this knowledge comes from taking nine credit hours of microbiology.
Aeromonas is a zoonotic disease, you could have caught it if you slipped on hygiene. I recommend finding a reptile experienced veterinarian, he should have warned you of the danger.
A vet who gives antibiotics to put in water is not worth his weight in salt.
He perscribed an antibiotic that is touch and go, might as well have thrown penicillin at it. Not all aero spp. are susceptible to what he prescribed. 100 percent of all a. caviae are susceptible to trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole, he should have given you this prepared for sub QT. With such rapid loss of fluids, saline injections should have been administered.
If he claimed the aero was the culprit for an RI, he was wrong. Entrobacter was to blame for the pulmonary distress, aero for the weight loss. Aero was the main threat to the animals well being, this is what finished off your snake.
Sidenote, this knowledge comes from taking nine credit hours of microbiology.
I'm going to forget unless I post this, but I advise you to stay away from expos. In particular the jobbers that have found a loophole in the trade. Your animal caught this probably from being housed with either infected bloods, or mixed species, transmission via contaminated water. Something was WC, as it is unlikely a CB specimen from established CB bloodlines would exhibit those particular afflictions. You never know how those snakes are kept until they are sold. Should you buy from a breeder, pay for a fecal examination before you buy, blood also if possible. A reputable breeder who maintains healthy stock should not object. Cheapest insurance you can buy.
Well said, the above, with one exception.
There are tens of RI inducing tribes of bacteriae, Aeromonas ( and its subspecies ) and many, many others.
Some, as Aeromonas fecalis can be related to hygiene, but can also be caught through the air, by the repiration.
Some tribes of bacteriae reside in the snake's system, and only harm them if their immune system is compromised.
As to the Vet, I have ben hinting that from the beginning.
There are tens of RI inducing tribes of bacteriae, Aeromonas ( and its subspecies ) and many, many others.
Some, as Aeromonas fecalis can be related to hygiene, but can also be caught through the air, by the repiration.
Some tribes of bacteriae reside in the snake's system, and only harm them if their immune system is compromised.
As to the Vet, I have ben hinting that from the beginning.
I am confused, are you saying I did not recognize the RI, or that I attributed the wrong bacterium to the RI itself?
The specific bacterium of aeromanas that was discovered was caviae, which is responsible for gastrointestinal infections.
The snake did indeed have an RI caused by the entrobacter, which targets the pulmonary system in its host.
Though both pose a risk to the animals life, aero caused the animal to dehydrate and lose condition quickly. The vet should have provided specific treatments to eliminate the organisms, instead he prescribed a broad spectrum, ineffective antibiotic.The entrobacter if fully resistent to all narrow and wide spectrum penicillins. They are susceptible only to carbapenems.
Indeed, there is a wide range of bacteria and viruses responsible for RI problems however; examining the sample narrowed the spectrum. He chose an ineffective, treatment at the expense of the OPs wallet.
The specific bacterium of aeromanas that was discovered was caviae, which is responsible for gastrointestinal infections.
The snake did indeed have an RI caused by the entrobacter, which targets the pulmonary system in its host.
Though both pose a risk to the animals life, aero caused the animal to dehydrate and lose condition quickly. The vet should have provided specific treatments to eliminate the organisms, instead he prescribed a broad spectrum, ineffective antibiotic.The entrobacter if fully resistent to all narrow and wide spectrum penicillins. They are susceptible only to carbapenems.
Indeed, there is a wide range of bacteria and viruses responsible for RI problems however; examining the sample narrowed the spectrum. He chose an ineffective, treatment at the expense of the OPs wallet.
