Ridiculous.

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Java is here! It's so healthy and green it almost looks fake. Sizes range from 10 to 12 inches. Courtesy of Canton Aquatics Warehouse on Ebay located in Terrell, TX. I'll likely be ordering more. Buy 2 and get 1 free. Hopefully the mats sink, I really like them.

Looking into the Diffenbachia and surprised at how pricey it now is for a fairly common houseplant here.

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Do you use lids? Or keep your water level a little lower? I've often thought of trying some floating plants but usually keep the water line above the bottom of the top rim so it's not visible, and have glass lids which only leaves an inch or so of clearance. Not sure how they'd do in such a small space.
 
Great-looking Java Fern! That plant has been a huge favourite of mine; I remember first trying it after reading an article in the old Freshwater And Marine Aquarist (FAMA) magazine, way way back. There was a fellow whose specialty was Bettas, and he wrote a regular monthly column in that mag. One month he devoted the whole column to Java Fern, extolling its virtues, its toughness, adaptability, etc. He had dozens or hundreds of jars raising individual Bettas, and would just drop a sprig or a chunk of the fern into each one. No lighting beyond room lighting, no special fertilizers or other technology...and the stuff would just grow and grow and grow. No substrate, and no solid base to which it could attach itself; it just floated in the water and grew. Many other aquarists have equally good luck with this thing, and very few herbivorous fish will touch it, which is a strong selling point.

I have long ago lost track of how many Java Ferns I have purchased, brought home, and watched gradually turn brown and wither away. They don't "melt" as so many other plants do. They just turn dark brown, remaining very firm and solid as they gradually fall apart. Usually they sprout dozens of new little plantlets on the leaves, which at first would fool me into thinking that they were thriving and growing.

They weren't doing either. They were gradually dying, and those baby plants seemed to be their last gasp, a final attempt at continuing the line before the Grim Reaper made the final cut.

I've sworn off buying them anymore; just can't take another bitter disappointment. I wish you the best of luck with them, FINWIN FINWIN , but I'm afraid that if you succeed with them, it'll just goad me into buying another batch and once again torturing them slowly to death.

I'll just stick with Hornwort, Guppy Grass, Java Moss, etc...you know, stuff that actually grows for me. :)
 
Do you use lids? Or keep your water level a little lower? I've often thought of trying some floating plants but usually keep the water line above the bottom of the top rim so it's not visible, and have glass lids which only leaves an inch or so of clearance. Not sure how they'd do in such a small space.
I have lids on everything. For the floaters I leave about 1" at the top. The 2 inch lettuce is doing well underneath the leds.
 
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Great-looking Java Fern! That plant has been a huge favourite of mine; I remember first trying it after reading an article in the old Freshwater And Marine Aquarist (FAMA) magazine, way way back. There was a fellow whose specialty was Bettas, and he wrote a regular monthly column in that mag. One month he devoted the whole column to Java Fern, extolling its virtues, its toughness, adaptability, etc. He had dozens or hundreds of jars raising individual Bettas, and would just drop a sprig or a chunk of the fern into each one. No lighting beyond room lighting, no special fertilizers or other technology...and the stuff would just grow and grow and grow. No substrate, and no solid base to which it could attach itself; it just floated in the water and grew. Many other aquarists have equally good luck with this thing, and very few herbivorous fish will touch it, which is a strong selling point.

I have long ago lost track of how many Java Ferns I have purchased, brought home, and watched gradually turn brown and wither away. They don't "melt" as so many other plants do. They just turn dark brown, remaining very firm and solid as they gradually fall apart. Usually they sprout dozens of new little plantlets on the leaves, which at first would fool me into thinking that they were thriving and growing.

They weren't doing either. They were gradually dying, and those baby plants seemed to be their last gasp, a final attempt at continuing the line before the Grim Reaper made the final cut.

I've sworn off buying them anymore; just can't take another bitter disappointment. I wish you the best of luck with them, FINWIN FINWIN , but I'm afraid that if you succeed with them, it'll just goad me into buying another batch and once again torturing them slowly to death.

I'll just stick with Hornwort, Guppy Grass, Java Moss, etc...you know, stuff that actually grows for me. :)
My fish love guppy grass so much I might as well buy Ranch dressing! Fingers crossed on the Java.
 
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I’ve ordered some, any suggestions on how to attach it in a rambunctious tank, I have to glue most things. Does it do well in soft water? Is it like anubias can just wedge it anywhere? Does it prefer top level high light or low level low light?
 
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No clue about soft water, since my water is reasonably hard, but as far as light goes it's pretty agnostic. Mine do well both nearer to the light (I have a couple pieces that detached from the decor, settled on the rotala mat just under the surface, and took off there) and in darker corners.

As for securing it, the rhizome is tough so you can use glue liberally. Java fern is not the best at attaching itself so any curious fish can dislodge even a wedged plant, it's best to help it along as well as you can.

I have long ago lost track of how many Java Ferns I have purchased, brought home, and watched gradually turn brown and wither away. They don't "melt" as so many other plants do. They just turn dark brown, remaining very firm and solid as they gradually fall apart. Usually they sprout dozens of new little plantlets on the leaves, which at first would fool me into thinking that they were thriving and growing.
Interesting - my experience is also that the initial leaves would brown and sprout plantlets, which I took to be analogous to the leaf melt in higher plants, but these would then form complete plants (although smaller than the giant leaves I'd brought home) instead of dying off.

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