Running a magnum 350 without turning it on

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That sucks. I would drill a hole in the magnum where you want the siphon to break. It will need to be below the normal water level if you want to keep it off most of the time to save power. If you'd rather keep it on for the flow rate, then you can put the hole above the normal water level and the siphone will break instantly during a power loss ie no drainage at all when the pump is off. Either way IMO you had the right idea with the hole. If you simply switch the returns it will continue to drain until the bottom of the other tube which will still be in the 20 gallon range.


Bottom line, your sump is too small for the amount of tanks/water you're running into it. Ideally you would want something in the 125 gallon range. Now you don't see a novice on drainage, you likely don't need to go out and find a bigger sump so much as you need to setup an overflow tub for power outages. Set the overflow to pick up below the top of the sump and then simply have this drain into say a 45 gallon tub from walmart. No need for a pump its merely an emergency overflow, not something you want to see happen very often.

The fish loss is a separate issue if you catch a power outage when you're home it's one thing. You need some kind of contingency plan for when you're not home. My bet would be a bubbler for each tank run by a ups. Hopefully it should last long enou for you to get home.
 
That sucks. I would drill a hole in the magnum where you want the siphon to break. It will need to be below the normal water level if you want to keep it off most of the time to save power. If you'd rather keep it on for the flow rate, then you can put the hole above the normal water level and the siphone will break instantly during a power loss ie no drainage at all when the pump is off. Either way IMO you had the right idea with the hole. If you simply switch the returns it will continue to drain until the bottom of the other tube which will still be in the 20 gallon range.


Bottom line, your sump is too small for the amount of tanks/water you're running into it. Ideally you would want something in the 125 gallon range. Now you don't see a novice on drainage, you likely don't need to go out and find a bigger sump so much as you need to setup an overflow tub for power outages. Set the overflow to pick up below the top of the sump and then simply have this drain into say a 45 gallon tub from walmart. No need for a pump its merely an emergency overflow, not something you want to see happen very often.

The fish loss is a separate issue if you catch a power outage when you're home it's one thing. You need some kind of contingency plan for when you're not home. My bet would be a bubbler for each tank run by a ups. Hopefully it should last long enou for you to get home.

What's a ups bubbler?


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A UPS is an Uninterruptible Power Supply. It's like a surge protector and battery in one. Its designed to keep things running for a pre-determined amount of time during a power outage.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/produc...echnology+Batteries_Power_Protection-_-163795

A bubbler is a bubbler, not sure how you mixed the two, my original statement was "My bet would be a bubbler for each tank run by a ups."
at any rate you need an air pump, a 3 way splitter, air hose, and at least 3 bubblers also called air stones.

The above UPS is rated for 600 Watts. If you have an air pump that draws 100watts (quite alot for an air pump) you would get 6 hours of operation out of the above UPS. If it draws a more typical 40 watts, you'd get 15 hours. Make sure to right size the air pump and UPS and most importantly don't plug anything else into it. This is for emergencies, its not an extra place to plug cords in.

This will give surface aeration. If you want it to also filter, make a sponge filter for each tank. That should give you enough aeration and filtration to last until you get home.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...ly-Underappreciated-Sponge-Filter-(1-Viewing)
 
That sucks. I would drill a hole in the magnum where you want the siphon to break. It will need to be below the normal water level if you want to keep it off most of the time to save power. If you'd rather keep it on for the flow rate, then you can put the hole above the normal water level and the siphone will break instantly during a power loss ie no drainage at all when the pump is off. Either way IMO you had the right idea with the hole. If you simply switch the returns it will continue to drain until the bottom of the other tube which will still be in the 20 gallon range.


Bottom line, your sump is too small for the amount of tanks/water you're running into it. Ideally you would want something in the 125 gallon range. Now you don't see a novice on drainage, you likely don't need to go out and find a bigger sump so much as you need to setup an overflow tub for power outages. Set the overflow to pick up below the top of the sump and then simply have this drain into say a 45 gallon tub from walmart. No need for a pump its merely an emergency overflow, not something you want to see happen very often.

The fish loss is a separate issue if you catch a power outage when you're home it's one thing. You need some kind of contingency plan for when you're not home. My bet would be a bubbler for each tank run by a ups. Hopefully it should last long enou for you to get home.

I agree. Something I still need to do on my tank
 
A UPS is an Uninterruptible Power Supply. It's like a surge protector and battery in one. Its designed to keep things running for a pre-determined amount of time during a power outage.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/produc...echnology+Batteries_Power_Protection-_-163795

A bubbler is a bubbler, not sure how you mixed the two, my original statement was "My bet would be a bubbler for each tank run by a ups."
at any rate you need an air pump, a 3 way splitter, air hose, and at least 3 bubblers also called air stones.

The above UPS is rated for 600 Watts. If you have an air pump that draws 100watts (quite alot for an air pump) you would get 6 hours of operation out of the above UPS. If it draws a more typical 40 watts, you'd get 15 hours. Make sure to right size the air pump and UPS and most importantly don't plug anything else into it. This is for emergencies, its not an extra place to plug cords in.

This will give surface aeration. If you want it to also filter, make a sponge filter for each tank. That should give you enough aeration and filtration to last until you get home.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...ly-Underappreciated-Sponge-Filter-(1-Viewing)

Thanks I'm on it


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