SA/CA Help in Aquascape Natural Tank

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Severums will chew through Anubias if they're hungry enough. I've got a naturally set up tank with my mild South Americans. I've found there's two keys to keeping plants rooted.

If it gets ripped out, don't put it back in the same place. My fish occasionally slightly chew plants, although I supplement their staple diet of Hikari products with skinned peas every second day which I feel helps. Whenever a plant gets ripped out, which I've watched them do particularly in my old tank, it's because they didn't like where it was.

Use coarse sand that's 2" or so deep, I've got 52Kg of sand in my tank, 20kg of it is standard filter sand which a lot of people use, and the rest is a mix of coarsish riversand that has a few rocks here and there etc. in it. If you're doing a CA/SA theme I suggest and recommend Amazon Swords & Chain Swords (broad and narrow for both).

Sandstone boulders are going to buffer your pH so be careful with that. I use boiled and scrubbed river rocks from a local freshwater river, they're just normal rocks.

Now, here's my tank. My Amazon swords are still small, and most of my chain swords are new, and because they're hydroponically grown or grown above water or something, they have different leaves which are dying and being replaced by the normal chain leaves so it looks a little weird. I had 1 single plant ripped out since adding all of these over the coarse of a few weeks. My Cichlids are still sub-adults but they don't even play around with the plants like they would in my old 3 foot.

Mind the terrible warm photo and the dirty tank.

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Closeup of gravel

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Edit: Don't put a Festae in with that mix, it'll wipe the floor with the lot.
 
I still love the towel rack japes.....
 
Japes

Thats a really nice looking tank what volume/dimensions is it?

How easy is that sand to clean and are you using any CO2 yet on your plants?

Cheers
 
Gadro;1596816; said:
Japes

Thats a really nice looking tank what volume/dimensions is it?

How easy is that sand to clean and are you using any CO2 yet on your plants?

Cheers

No cO2, not even DIY, I'm a student so money is a problem for me. Sand is very easy to clean, tanks a bit messy after a water change because I stir it all up and my tanks only been running for a bit over a month so the sands still not perfectly clean yet. I just gravelvac using a standard vacuum that you'd buy for Gravel.. that's a stupid sentence but it works really well, might suck up the odd grain here and there but it's effective. Feces will sit on the surface even with the coarser sand so you can just suck it straight off the surface.

My tanks actually quite hard to clean overall because of how deep it is, and I have no side or back access, obviously, and it's a 48x24x28" 140Gal (exterior) tank so I can't reach the bottom without a step ladder or some other sort of elevation. My rock setup is finicky, my fish actually have a huge cavern at the back that my two Severums and sometimes my Chocolate sleep in as it's easily accessed from three different places. Cleaning this is a little difficult as I can't see in there and I don't want to go bashing them with the gravel-vac as I blindly swing it around in there but it's still doable.

The main problem with my tank is that I've got 4x54W lighting on it with a reflector, but 28 inches means that not much light is getting to the plants. I run them for 11 hours a day and algae is a bit of a problem as you can see, but my plants are surviving luckily, I usually have to clean algae off the leaves though. If it doesn't work out I'm going to get some 15000K lights for deeper penetration, as I'm running 4x10000K currently.

Gadro;1596831; said:
How much did the towel rail cost? Handy!

Nah just kidding with you..

AU$120 actually, though I got it as a freebie. It's a doorhandle of these large two way house front doors that was left over. The old mans a Carpenter, always handy :p
 
ALGAE

Thats one of the reasons that I thought of trying plants, I understand that establised plants can out compete algae for nutrients.

Does the sand cause any problems for your filter setup, I see you've got your spraybar submereged on the right. Does this cause any movement with the substrate?
 
Hey Japes you don't live anywhere near Mooloolaba do you. Got a friend living there he's got and outdoor tropical pond, lucky bugger - too cold here in bloody Wales Brrrrrrrrrr!!!
 
Gadro;1596873; said:
Hey Japes you don't live anywhere near Mooloolaba do you. Got a friend living there he's got and outdoor tropical pond, lucky bugger - too cold here in bloody Wales Brrrrrrrrrr!!!

Hehe, I live in Caloundra which is about 15 minutes drive away. No problems with the sand, I'm actually only running about 3 1/2 turnovers an hour for the tank (1700lph) so I don't really have a whole lot of movement. Even at 4000lph you aren't going to see much movement in the sand though, maybe fine particles off the surface but they'll soon get stopped in your filtration.

I run Eheim Classic Canisters, absolutely no problem with sand. If any does get sucked up, which I doubt it would, it'll get filtered out mechanically before it hits the impeller. Haven't had to clean either of them yet. Older one is around 5-6 months old.

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Tank currently, needs a clean still but it's a better shot :p
 
Just so you know, uarus love to eat plants... they keep them trimmed to the substrate...
 
Japes thats a Much better picture

The stones on the right hand side of the pic is that algae growth or have you culitvated moss? If it is moss how did you do that?

Anybody else got any ideas pics?

Thanks
 
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