salt in a fw tank?

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cichlidbuddy

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is this useful? needed? how much do you use? should i just put it right in the tank? is it ok with all fish?

also, what are some symptoms of developing ich? i know what it looks like once its in full kick. just wondering about before and causes. also is it a a virus or bacteria or what?
 
Look around this forum. There is a huge thread on this subject.
 
ich comes from rapid water temp change and when the fish becomes nervous its simple to keep away just crank ur water heater up 2 about 80*deg F* and you should be fine from my experiences
 
KABB44423;1239200; said:
ich comes from rapid water temp change and when the fish becomes nervous its simple to keep away just crank ur water heater up 2 about 80*deg F* and you should be fine from my experiences
Ich is present in most all tanks, just as the common cold is present around us.
Rapid temp. change or a "nervous fish" are one and the same. Stressed.
Stress in a fish allows the Ich parasite an easier way to manifest itself much as being "run down", not eating right, getting enough rest, getting enough fluids, etc. allows us to "catch" the common cold.
We don't "catch" IT, it "catches" us.
Increaseing temp and adding salt does a couple things.
Increasing temp. helps the parasite to complete it's lifecycle quicker, and adding salt is similar to taking cold medicine. It makes the fish "feel" better while the cold is running it's course.
 
It's neither a bacteria nor a virus, it's a type of parasite. It burrows into the fish, feeds, and then drops off to complete it's life cycle. When you treat ich in a tank you're not treating the ich ON the fish, as in that stage it's not vulnerable to meds. You are treating the parasites that have fallen off the fish to prevent any parasites from reinfecting your fish. That's why you must treat ich for several days. You must treat it until your fish show no more signs and then for several days afterward to be completely sure that it's gone.

As ercnan mentioned, ich completes its lifecycle faster at higher temperatures. So higher temperatures will allow the parasite to drop off your fish faster. Once they fall off they are vulnerable to the meds.

There is another method of treating ich with salt and heat that involves adding enough salt and enough heat to kill the ich. Ich is sensitive to both salt and heat and can only handle certain amounts. However, there is some scrutiny of this method as it severely stresses most fish.
Personally I prefer raising the temperature to no more than 80 and treating with actual meds rather than salt, but many people prefer a lot of heat and salt for treatment. My fish seem less stressed going through normal treatment at lower temps than lots of heat and salt, so it just depends on what you are comfortable with.

Also keep in mind what fish you keep. Scaleless fish are sensitive and can die from some meds, especially those containing malachite green. So on some tropical scaleless fish, such as clown loaches, most choose salt and heat rather than meds.
There are some fish that barely tolerate salt or can't tolerate much heat, so the salt/heat method could potentially be fatal for them.
 
i keep all my tanks at a temp of 80-84 deg anyway i guess thats why i have been lucky so far
 
By keeping your water hotter than necessary, you are rissing their metabolism & shortening their lifespan.
 
Is a rapid cooling of water bad for a largemouth bass. I need to move my bass tank this weekend and I need to drain all the water out of my 55. Then I have to fill it up with the garden hose and that water is like 50 degrees. The water in the tank is about 65 to 70 degrees. Will the change in water give my bass and bluegills itch? I'm going to let the tank warm up but I don't have a heater I just give it an hour or so and then I put the fish in.
 
ok, now...once you put in salt and increase temp, do you do water changes or leave it for awhile?

also, if there is ich in the water and you use a syphon and accidently swallow some water, will you get ich. or maybe sick in some way?
 
Pufferpunk;1239950; said:
By keeping your water hotter than necessary, you are rissing their metabolism & shortening their lifespan.
is that a fact?????? and how much of there life span do u think is being cut off? ive never heard of this :nilly:
 
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