Salt people i need your help

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PEVINE11;4471724; said:


if you know how to rean instructions PH buffer is fine.
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I have to disagree. Many organisms are tolerant of a pH that is above/below what is recomended, at the same time, they are not tolerant of water chemistry swings. Its best to just go with what you are getting from your local source and keep your pH stable.
 
Heathd;4471919; said:
The terrible things in tap water is really going to vary from source to source. My citys water isnt that bad at all, and used it untill a week ago with no real problems. The only reason why I got a rodi unit is because I like not having to use dechlorinator.
Even RO/DI water has its drawbacks though, like making the water too soft. Then there are people who mix rodi and tap 50/50, and a lot of them dont have any massive issues either. If tap is really that big of an issue, a mature refugium with an ATS or a macro setup will absorb most of the crap that comes out of your tap. Hell, macros will even absorb iron and copper. So rodi water isnt the only answer, its just one solution among many.


Crushed coral isnt a bad substrate. If it is causing problems with ammonia spikes or nitrite issues, then its nothing more then poor husbandry. Sure, its easier to just use "oolite" grade aragonite. Problems will stem from just about everywhere in this hobby where their is poor upkeep and maintence, so sand isnt into the clear.
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ive never heard of negtives of using 0 TDS water. nor people who mix rodi with tap......why pay $300+ for a rodi system if your going to mix tap water in to the product water? mise well just take the waste water from the rodi and put it into your tank

city not that bad? did you ever send it out to get it tested? may look clear........but its dirty. city water is the worst. unless by city water you ment well water?

and a lot of them dont have any massive issues either.
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.........any massive problems?. i dont want any problems, massive or not

What will a refugium absorb? Chloramine NO


So rodi water isnt the only answer, its just one solution among many.
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most convient. and im not aweare of any other ways.....
 
Heathd;4471938; said:
I have to disagree. Many organisms are tolerant of a pH that is above/below what is recomended, at the same time, they are not tolerant of water chemistry swings. Its best to just go with what you are getting from your local source and keep your pH stable.
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so if my tank is 8.3
and water im going to water change with is 7.2


your sayingjust add it to the tank......probaly not going to happen thats a bad idea
 
PEVINE11;4471943; said:
ive never heard of negtives of using 0 TDS water.
Thats great, but I listed it for you. Its called soft water. Water that is mineral defficient and and has a very low pH.
nor people who mix rodi with tap......why pay $300+ for a rodi system if your going to mix tap water in to the product water? mise well just take the waste water from the rodi and put it into your tank
See above statement for why you would use a 50/50 mix.

city not that bad? did you ever send it out to get it tested? may look clear........but its dirty. city water is the worst. unless by city water you ment well water?
Maybe your city water is the worst, I dunno? Like I said, it varies from each municipality. No, I didnt test it. No, I am not going to. I used it, and had coral growth and nothing awful as far as algae grows.


.........any massive problems?. i dont want any problems, massive or not

What will a refugium absorb? Chloramine NO
Never said it would. All i said is that they will absorb undesirables from the tap. They sell tap water conditioner, and it nuetralize Chloramine...



most convient. and im not aweare of any other ways.....
I listed them in the last post, and your not open to them.
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PEVINE11;4471948; said:
so if my tank is 8.3
and water im going to water change with is 7.2


your sayingjust add it to the tank......probaly not going to happen thats a bad idea
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Way to take an extreme example to try and make a point. No way you are going to have a pH that low with freshly mixed saltwater. Synthetic saltmixes automatically buffer the water when mixed.
 
PEVINE11;4471948; said:
so if my tank is 8.3
and water im going to water change with is 7.2


your sayingjust add it to the tank......probaly not going to happen thats a bad idea
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Once you put your salt mix in it, the pH will not be 7.2 any more.



Pevine I am going to try to politely tell you how arrogant you sound. You are saying your way is the only way. I am sorry but its not.

If you are calling into question my ability to understand water chemistry, you are seriously calling out the wrong person. I am going to guess that my understanding of water chemistry is far better than what I need to know to maintain salt water aquaria.

Salt water is by its very nature very high in TDS, why would it be essential to remove them all before adding them back in?

I am not sure what measure of success you seek to find? I also don't think this is a place for bragging about who can keep better tanks than whom. If you think Google is the best place to do research, you have said all you need to about your understanding.

Please keep in mind that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Also keep in mind that sometimes your youth and arrogance will cause the experts, whose advice you may need some day, to walk away from you and tell you to figure it out yourself.
 
PEVINE11;4471943; said:
ive never heard of negtives of using 0 TDS water. nor people who mix rodi with tap......why pay $300+ for a rodi system if your going to mix tap water in to the product water? mise well just take the waste water from the rodi and put it into your tank
Salt water mix will return back to the water everything you took out of it and then some. So why remove it in the first place? Why pay for a system to remove what you plan to put right back in?

city not that bad? did you ever send it out to get it tested? may look clear........but its dirty. city water is the worst. unless by city water you ment well water?
Please back up this with data, citations and or examples. I look quite closely at the water reports for my area, I have never seen anything alarming. When I lived on a well I did get it tested, and again, nothing was alarming.



What will a refugium absorb? Chloramine NO
Why would you even suggest something so silly?



most convient. and im not aweare of any other ways.....
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Would you please use a spell checker, your arrogance is spelled so poorly that it should be embarrassing to you.
 
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