You have proved your intelligence, there are sharks that can thrive in a 180 gallon. You are obviously are out of your league here. No one is bragging, you questioned whether we had tanks. Turns out they are bigger and more complex, by both our more educated opinions. You ask one thing, then say you didn't. Your tripping over your own words now.
Salt people i need your help
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....PEVINE11;4473943; said:ok so you paid for a larg tank. cool
if your large tank is anything like 'ashlee's buy some rock for some good natural filteration and get rid of the HOB filters.
Hmmm.... I guess Dr.Heslinga is a schmuck because that guy has a whole video series on how to build a 10 gal using a hob filter. I guess his 30 years of experience, knowledge on captive breeding, and work on aqaucultering maxima and dersa clams isnt enough to back up using a HOB. You have problems with crushed coral, hobs, and maybe even canisters because you are LAZY. If you have good husbandry, its not an issue.
i like nano and picco tanks which are a competly diffrent intrest group. comparing a large tank to a small tank is like comparing sports cars to large trucks. nothing alike other then they drive on the road
your keeping saltwater fish, or corals, or whatever crap you want to keep in it that is saltwater related. But it is different, because in a nano, your limited.
i like nano and picco because they are much more challangeing to keep.
No they arent. My first sw tank was a 10 gallon, and I used tap water.... im so naughty. Its a misconception that they are hard to keep
almost like your trying to brag about that......but that doesnt intrest me.
maybe a 10X5 shallow comunity reef......that would be impressive
10x5 doesnt seem large enough for sharks, and hope you dont feed them as much as your green moray......may have some problems.......
i thought sharks need 1500+ gallons?
They do, they also need PURE RO/DI water....
i like nano and picco because they are much more challangeing to keep.
No they arent. My first sw tank was a 10 gallon, and I used tap water.... im so naughty. Its a misconception that they are hard to keep
No they arent. My first sw tank was a 10 gallon, and I used tap water.... im so naughty. Its a misconception that they are hard to keep
do i have to pay extra for that?
I would comment on that, but doing so would mean that I was alluding to committing to an illegal transaction. I was reprimanded last time I did that.PEVINE11;4474011; said:
PEVINE11;4471875; said:
You do realize that municipal water is tested way more than bottled water right? Its generally safer for you to drink out of a tap than it is to drink your expensive fiji water.
Also RO/DI is needed if your tap water isn't good. But thousands of fishkeepers on here will tell you how tap water has been working for them for years with no issues.
If your tap water is fine theres no reason to spend the money on RO/DI. Its like Tylenol vs no-name. The end result is the same but one is way cheaper.
silent1mezzo;4474060; said:
You do realize that municipal water is tested way more than bottled water right? Its generally safer for you to drink out of a tap than it is to drink your expensive fiji water.
Also RO/DI is needed if your tap water isn't good. But thousands of fishkeepers on here will tell you how tap water has been working for them for years with no issues.
If your tap water is fine theres no reason to spend the money on RO/DI. Its like Tylenol vs no-name. The end result is the same but one is way cheaper.
Its generally safer for you to drink out of a tap than it is to drink your expensive fiji water.
dissagree.....fiji is naturally filtered from volacinic rock
tap water has chemicals
this thread is super off topic
Also ok i learned something new a shark can thrive in a 180 gallon tank. like i said i dont keep large tanbks i appolige
Heathd;4473973; said:Whats the doctorates in?
I have an odd combination of degrees. I taught Bilingual Biology for a few years before Bilingual Education became against the "No Child Left Behind Act". Because I had so many degrees I was an expensive staff member and was layed off immediately when budgets got tight. At that point they weren't letting me teach what I wanted anyway, so I went back to school and got a PhD. I don't have to write bathroom passes anymore and when Joey doesn't do his homework I can just fail him rather than have to call his mother 4 times and inform her.
BS: Zoology/ Limnology/Spanish
MS: Marine Biology/ TESOL
PhD: Organismic and Evolutionary Biology (of marine teleosts)
My research interests dabble in aquaculture, fish nutrition, evolutionary physiology and impacts from recreational angling. At a glance they don't seem very related to each other, but they are.
Franklin, NH water quality report (2009)PEVINE11;4474081; said:
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[/FONT] DETECTED WATER QUALITY RESULTS
Contaminant
(Units)
Level Detected
MCL
MCLG
Violation
YES/NO
Likely Source of Contamination
Inorganic Contaminants
Copper
(ppm)
.073 - .63 ppm
AL=1.3
1.3
No
Corrosion of household plumbing systems; erosion of natural deposits; leaching from wood preservatives
Lead
(ppb)
1 – 9 ppb
AL=15
0
No
Corrosion of household plumbing systems, erosion of natural deposits
Nitrate
(as Nitrogen)
(ppm)
.08 - .86 ppm
10
10
No
Runoff from fertilizer use; leaching from septic tanks, sewage; erosion of natural deposits
Nitrite
(as Nitrogen)
(ppm)
.10 - .87 ppm
1
1
No
Runoff from fertilizer use; leaching from septic tanks, sewage; erosion of natural deposits
Volatile Organic Contaminants
TTHM
(Bromodichloro-methane Bromoform Dibromomethane Chloroform) (ppb)
.07 ug/L to 1.4 ug/L
80
N/A
No
By-product of drinking water chlorination
Fiji water quality report
TABLE 1: FIJI WATER COMPANY SPECIFIC MINERAL ANALYSIS
General Mineral Analysis FIJI Water
Bicarbonate 140mg/L
Calcium 17mg/L
Chloride 4.8mg/L
Fluoride 0.29mg/L
Magnesium 13mg/L
Sodium 18mg/L
Silica 85mg/L
Sulfate 1.3 mg/L
Total Dissolved Solids 210mg/L
Total Alkalinity 132mg/L
Conductivity 278
umho/c
PH 7.5
Sodium per 8 oz. Serving 4.7 mg
End analysis: The units are different on these two reports as one uses ppb (parts per billion) and one uses mg/L so let me put them the same for you.
Your tap water contains 0.001-0.009 mg/l of lead and 0.00073-0.0063mg/ L of copper. Quite frankly I am impressed that they have equipment that can detect those levels. Fiji water is not required to test for things at that level, so if present they wouldn't appear in the report. However they have rather elevated levels of many metallic ions.
When you change the units to match, its pretty amazing how little is in your tap water and how much is in Fiji. But if you think Fiji is better for you, go right ahead and drink it. Why not just drink your RO/DI water if you feel that is better for sustaining life?
Ok guys, I'm gonna ask everyone to take a deep breath and play nice.
As for this thread, there are often times more than one right answer to a question.
I use tap water, no issues at all. In fact many people (including public aquariums) use tap as the base for mixing saltwater. (I've worked for two places that do that.)
Talking about keeping your pH up, it will happen on it's own. Using crushed coral is a great way to help, but just having salt in the water will get low pH freshwater up a LOT. (By the way, using crushed coral substate has nothing at all to do with nitrates issues - how you clean it does.) My tap comes out at low 7, once salt is mixed in, it's usually over 8. That being said, many fish will thrive in STABLE pH, not just high pH. My 10,000 gallon stingray pool runs about 7.6 and does just fine. I've run several 500,000 gallon systems that held pH of 7.8-7.9 constantly for years and the marine animals did just fine. If the time comes to need to adjust the pH, I don't use chemicals, look into natural buffers like calcium carbonate.
As for this thread, there are often times more than one right answer to a question.
I use tap water, no issues at all. In fact many people (including public aquariums) use tap as the base for mixing saltwater. (I've worked for two places that do that.)
Talking about keeping your pH up, it will happen on it's own. Using crushed coral is a great way to help, but just having salt in the water will get low pH freshwater up a LOT. (By the way, using crushed coral substate has nothing at all to do with nitrates issues - how you clean it does.) My tap comes out at low 7, once salt is mixed in, it's usually over 8. That being said, many fish will thrive in STABLE pH, not just high pH. My 10,000 gallon stingray pool runs about 7.6 and does just fine. I've run several 500,000 gallon systems that held pH of 7.8-7.9 constantly for years and the marine animals did just fine. If the time comes to need to adjust the pH, I don't use chemicals, look into natural buffers like calcium carbonate.
