SALT QUESTION???

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natgrapa;1094680; said:
just for prevention of any kind of disease and also i noticed when i put salt everytime i change the water my "ARO" is more calm(less stress) and its really well known to improve gill function!!!

correct

it does indeed hep with stress, its what kept my arow so calm when she was a baby. when my arowana was a baby i always dosed her tank with one table spoon per 5 gallons.
 
thanks!!! its good to know that im not the only one that doing this!!! how about right now are still putting salt every water change???


DeLgAdO;1096511; said:
correct

it does indeed hep with stress, its what kept my arow so calm when she was a baby. when my arowana was a baby i always dosed her tank with one table spoon per 5 gallons.
 
its not clear to me that salt helps any more than it hurts.....

it will help with high nitrites and a few parasites........


does anybody know of any research on salt or its it just an old myth that its a cure all ???

seems odd as there is no salt in a fresh water fish's habitat....:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
johnptc;1096744; said:
its not clear to me that salt helps any more than it hurts.....

it will help with high nitrites and a few parasites........


does anybody know of any research on salt or its it just an old myth that its a cure all ???

seems odd as there is no salt in a fresh water fish's habitat....:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

you own a 10,000 gallon tank with all this high tech equipment and $$$ fish and all you can come up with is that it helps with nitrites and parasites?

cmon john.....THINK!

i think you must understand osmoregulation in a freshwater fishes body. ANd how electrolytes play a role in proper gill funtioning

heres an article i found from a koi website, note that even though its a koi website the concepts and ideas of using salt apply to aquarium fish as well.

http://www.fantasticfihpond.com/Pond-Salt-For-Health-Fish.html


fish actively maintain a natural balance of electrolytes in their body fluids. Electrolytes such as potassium, sodium, chloride, calcium and magnesium are removed from the water by chloride cells located in the gills. These electrolytes are essential for the uptake of oxygen and release of carbon dioxide and ammonium across gill membranes.


The lack of electrolytes can cause serious health problems to the fish. Pond Salt is an all natural salt, providing the essential electrolytes fish need to survive. Pond Salt (aquarium salt) is not just a table salt ( sodium chloride ). It is made from evaporated sea water. Evaporated sea water contains the necessary electrolytes pond fish need.
How Pond Salt helps Improve Gill Function to Reduce Stress....


During periods of disease and stress, healthy gill function is disturbed. This can lead to the loss of electrolytes through the gills, sometimes called osmotic shock. Osmotic shock interrupts healthy gill function by reducing the intake of oxygen and the release of carbon dioxide and ammonium from the fish. Salt reduces the risk of osmotic shock by supplying natural electrolytes through the chloride cells in the gills.
 
DeLgAdO;1098745; said:
you own a 10,000 gallon tank with all this high tech equipment and $$$ fish and all you can come up with is that it helps with nitrites and parasites?

cmon john.....THINK!

i think you must understand osmoregulation in a freshwater fishes body. ANd how electrolytes play a role in proper gill funtioning

heres an article i found from a koi website, note that even though its a koi website the concepts and ideas of using salt apply to aquarium fish as well.

http://www.fantasticfihpond.com/Pond-Salt-For-Health-Fish.html


thanks for the link....


please see http://www.algone.com/salt_in_fresh.php


:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: still:)
 
Salt, when used on the wrong types of fish, can have very negative effects on freshwater fishes internal system in the long term, i would not advise using salt on true freshwater fish unless you are treating the fish specifically for something (which the salt can cure) and the fish is of course tolerant of the salt.
It is not nesarsary to add salt every waterchange if there is nothing wrong with your fish, especially since it can damage many fish in the long term if used all the time. Clean water quality and regular water changes are all that are needed to keep the water clear of parasites and diseases.

Reasons why you shouldn't use salt on a regular basis on freshwater fish;

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86298

The main results of using salt on freshwater fish in the long term is a strain on the internal organs, and possible liver and kidney failure, and kidney stones, and shortening of life expectancy of fish etc. Salt can be exceptionally toxic to certain freshwater fish as well, and can easily kill them in relatively small doses over short periods of time.
 
you guys have gotten me totally confused now:drool: i've been keeping fish for 20+ years and have never added salt to my tanks during water changes...guess i'm not gonna start now...interesting argument on both sides though....
 
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