Scleropages Leichardti in large community tank?
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I asked mainly if it was likely to hurt any of my fish. Reading through the replies, the answer is a resounding no. I know that it's risky to put it in there with those species and sizes of fish in a vacuum, but I know these specimens, and the worst they are going to do to it is mess it's fins up a little bit for a few weeks.
Just get a another tank and raise it by itself until it is big enough to join the others. You're not being logical. A leichardti as a snack sounds really expensive, and if it is your favorite arow, I'd think you'd care more about its safety. Also too much wood in your tank, your leichardti will bump its mouth up.
Ok big guy, if you're so sure you know my fish better than I do let's raise the stakes. I paid 500 for the fish. I'll bet you 1500 it's JUST FINE in 30 days.
I know 3 or 4 local MFKers who will likely already be seeing the new setup that can confirm...
But you won't take the bet. You're not confident enough to actually accept responsibility IRL, only to anonymously accuse somebody of abusing animals on the internet. Unlike me, who is willing to put 2k on the line to show just how confident I am with these specimens.
Interesting.
Man, look at these poor, neglected fish. Their owner obviously doesn't care at all.
Please, somebody take the bet. At least then there's a chance that this terrible owner will spend some of that 1500 he wins improving their quality of life, even if just a little bit. Food every day, an education, anything will help.
The owner has only spent about 12k on them in a 45-day period. Having a door to nowhere installed in his basement, calling a plumber to get a drain for the 5GPH drip/autowaterchange in the sump, that was all just for selfish reasons. He hasn't even expedited the custom 96Lx32Wx30H tank to get it made faster. Despicable.
Please, somebody take the bet. At least then there's a chance that this terrible owner will spend some of that 1500 he wins improving their quality of life, even if just a little bit. Food every day, an education, anything will help.
The owner has only spent about 12k on them in a 45-day period. Having a door to nowhere installed in his basement, calling a plumber to get a drain for the 5GPH drip/autowaterchange in the sump, that was all just for selfish reasons. He hasn't even expedited the custom 96Lx32Wx30H tank to get it made faster. Despicable.
I moved the port cichlid into the 80, which completely relieved all of the cichlid tension in the tank. I also managed to brace the wood that was sticking up out of the water down so that no wood is within about 3" of the waterline now, thanks for that info lyzheng. The two side pieces are in the tank because they still float and are still leaching, I plan on putting them in the 340 along with another big piece that I just threw into the 80 to provide cover for the port cichlid.
To lighten the tone a bit, for the people worried about the safety of the fish, the oscar and the severum are really docile when the port cichlid is out of the tank. They pass by each other without any sort of signalling or anything. Neither of them really like it at the top of the tank, they hang out at least 6 inches down, usually by some desirable feature in the wood. Nothing hangs out at the top of the tank.
The top of the tank really isn't a big-fish-friendly zone. It's difficult for them to move around up there. The only time one of them goes up is when the clown knife gulps air, and he only really has room to do it in one place.
My granulosus is SMALL. All 3 of the catfish and the clown knife could eat it, but none of them have ever eaten live food, just pellets, prawns, krill and beef heart. None of the fish display any aggressive attitude towards it at all, they even let it munch on their sides like a remora. The tiger shovelnose and the clown knife in particular have had the opportunity to eat many small fish including a couple earth eaters, the granulosus, the port cichlid, and a 5" pike(which by my estimation will be smaller than the aro I receive Wednesday morning). I hope to never have to house the aro with the bichir, but it's also had many opportunities to eat fish smaller than this aro will be, including the port cichlid presently.
To lighten the tone a bit, for the people worried about the safety of the fish, the oscar and the severum are really docile when the port cichlid is out of the tank. They pass by each other without any sort of signalling or anything. Neither of them really like it at the top of the tank, they hang out at least 6 inches down, usually by some desirable feature in the wood. Nothing hangs out at the top of the tank.
The top of the tank really isn't a big-fish-friendly zone. It's difficult for them to move around up there. The only time one of them goes up is when the clown knife gulps air, and he only really has room to do it in one place.
My granulosus is SMALL. All 3 of the catfish and the clown knife could eat it, but none of them have ever eaten live food, just pellets, prawns, krill and beef heart. None of the fish display any aggressive attitude towards it at all, they even let it munch on their sides like a remora. The tiger shovelnose and the clown knife in particular have had the opportunity to eat many small fish including a couple earth eaters, the granulosus, the port cichlid, and a 5" pike(which by my estimation will be smaller than the aro I receive Wednesday morning). I hope to never have to house the aro with the bichir, but it's also had many opportunities to eat fish smaller than this aro will be, including the port cichlid presently.
That oscar is a weenie, the severum dominates it when they face off. And neither of them has ever even remotely seriously hurt a fish, they are just interested in dominance. They ignore fish that don't signal at all. The only way I can see them messing with the aro is if they both signal aggressively but speak a different "language", in which case it'll still just be acts of show, not bites intended to kill. In that case I have plenty of time to set up a temporary tank for the aro, because stress will be the primary problem, not physical damage.
If it'll work with the fish I'll be keeping it with, I'd rather it grow out around them so it's less likely to be aggressive to them later in life.
If it'll work with the fish I'll be keeping it with, I'd rather it grow out around them so it's less likely to be aggressive to them later in life.
