Seachem Prime Exposed

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plecostic

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Been trying this out since many people use it and have had good results with it. I couldn't help but notice on the bottle and on the seachem website it says it removes ammonia, followed by another bit that says it detoxifies ammonia. I confirmed with seacham via email and it does not remove ammonia but only detoxifies it relying on the established beneficial bacteria to remove it.

On new uncycled tanks, you're screwed, but they said you can just keep dosing it with prime everyday, yeah that's what I wanted to hear (not).

What they are advertising is very shady and misleading, they are basically lying about removing it. Primes does not remove ammonia. Not sure I can do business with a company that lies like that. I'll always be reminded of the lie every time I look at the bottle.
 
Not sure what your deal is against Seachem. They clearly state on their website what it does:

Prime® converts ammonia into a safe, non-toxic form that is readily removed by the tank’s biofilter. Prime® may be used during tank cycling to alleviate ammonia/nitrite toxicity.
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Maybe you should properly cycle your tank and not shift the blame on Seachem? If your tank isn't cycled, they have a product that can help, Seachem Stability.
 
There's no real reason to want it to completely remove ammonia anyway. The ammonia stays there to help get the biofilter going, but becomes less toxic to the fish (that shouldn't be in an uncycled tank anyway). Prime is a great, highly concentrated dechloronating product that I will definitely continue to use
 
seachem is IMO a very reputable company, yet they are still in it for business so dont be so surprised if they are trying to sell a product with fancy descriptions. I use many of their products because I have done my research. so, like with all products out there, always compare.
 
The best way to remove ammonia is water change. I don't think any chemical will ever beat the actual replacement of water
 
You must have missed the part that says it removes Ammonia (which it does not), it's not a misprint, it's a blatant lie, intended to mislead, one has to wonder what else are they not saying about this product.

Have no problems with cycled tanks, mine are fully cycled. It's the ammonia in the tap water that concerns me and without a way to remove it during a water change, it's deadly for the fish (speaking from experience). There's enough ammonia in the tap water to be too much for the bio-filter, add to that how chemicals can deprive fish of oxygen, etc. There's many reasons to question these products regardless if they work. I can take the blinders approach like everybody else and just accept like a sheep but I prefer to know what I'm putting into my tanks. A company who intentionally misleads the customer is worth questioning.

Sorry for exposing the truth, I'll go back to the sheep pen now and baaaa baaaa with the rest of the seachem fanboys.:headbang2

jcardona1 said:
Not sure what your deal is against Seachem. They clearly state on their website what it does:
Maybe you should properly cycle your tank and not shift the blame on Seachem? If your tank isn't cycled, they have a product that can help, Seachem Stability.
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plecostic said:
You must have missed the part that says it removes Ammonia (which it does not), it's not a misprint, it's a blatant lie, intended to mislead, one has to wonder what else are they not saying about this product.

Have no problems with cycled tanks, mine are fully cycled. It's the ammonia in the tap water that concerns me and without a way to remove it during a water change, it's deadly for the fish (speaking from experience). There's enough ammonia in the tap water to be too much for the bio-filter, add to that how chemicals can deprive fish of oxygen, etc. There's many reasons to question these products regardless if they work. I can take the blinders approach like everybody else and just accept like a sheep but I prefer to know what I'm putting into my tanks. A company who intentionally misleads the customer is worth questioning.

Sorry for exposing the truth, I'll go back to the sheep pen now and baaaa baaaa with the rest of the seachem fanboys.:headbang2
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Stop with the conspiracy theories and reading in between the lines. If toxic ammonia is converted into a non-toxic form, I would assume it was "removed". And on your comment on ammonia in your tap water. How do you know it's ammonia and not the false reading from chloramine?
 
I'm not sure where your attitude is coming from but there is nothing out there that really removes ammonia. 'Detoxifies' is the closest thing that will ever come from really removing ammonia. If you use your test kit after using prime I bet it comes back zero, so is the ammonia really still there? The part that kills the fish is changed so in effect it is gone.
 
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