Seachem Prime in action (vid)

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I'm not going to argue with personal experience...

But I think the personal experience of others not seeing flashing, not having small fish die and having sensative fish do just fine holds some weight...

It should also be included that different places will use different amounts of different chemicals... if your area uses 10 times more chlorine than my area it is likely that you will have a different experience.

While I think it's beneficial for you to share your experience as a precaution to others... and it would be even more so if a bit of an explaintation were included (such as different areas using different amounts of chlorine)...

But falsely claiming that this video supports the theory that we should not add Prime & tap water directly to the tank is just that... a flase claim...
 
Interesting vid. Nice post.
 
vfc;3427318; said:
nc_nutcase posted:
"There are thousands of users that have been adding Prime to the tank during water changes for many years. Stop trying to override that level of experience with speculation.."

Is there any scientific evidence that proves the fish from those thousands of users did not suffer and live shorter life spans from being exposed briefly to chlorine and chloramine? There were those that believed (and some still do) that smoking and second hand smoke do not shorten the average human life span.

I have experience from multiple tanks and fish that backs up my opinion. I have lost small fish and my large cichlids would flash and shake their heads when I was adding Prime to my tank while I was changing water. That stopped when I switched to pre-mixing.
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As much as I hate your smoking comparison :grinno:

I too experienced fish stress in my cichlids when I did a water change with the python. I filled slowly too and mixed the prime in then let it fill. I now use a holding tank. Everyone has different experience. My Bichirs don't seem to care :screwy:
 
nc_nutcase;3427205; said:
I disagree that this is dead on and feel it is overlooking the obvious and risking misleading people...

Yes he stirred twice... because he added drops twice...

Do you think the concentration of blue dye was a little more than the concentration of chlorine is in our aquariums? Obviously it is.

He also added about 10 drops (5 drops two times) to remove the blue dye. So does this mean we should all be addeing 10 drops per cup like he did, or following the instructions on the label and adding 2 drops per gallon.

This video didn't "prove" anything and in no way represents dechlorination. It was a meaningless example that Prime works. Interesting to watch, and thanks for posting it... but in the end still meaningless.

There are thousands of users that have been adding Prime to the tank during water changes for many years. Stop trying to override that level of experience with speculation...
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"concentration of blue dye...blah, blah, blah"
"adding 10 drops per cup...blah, blah, blah"

The value of the video is ONLY to make one consider the rate of diffusive interaction between the dechlorinating agent and the incoming chloramines being discharged into your tank (and inflicted upon the gills of your fish) if you elect to dechlorinate WITHIN your tank. It is totally irrelevant whether the blue dye and conditions employed in the video demo precisley represent the interaction of Prime and chloramine within an aquarium...they almost certainly do not. The reaction of Prime (or any other dechlorinator) can not possibly occur with sufficient speed via diffusion and physical mixing to detoxify all chloramine before it reaches your fish if you elect to dechlorinate within your tank. It is also irrelevant if thousands do it this way and have not observed or reported a "problem". Whether or not the chloraime does any damage, minimal damage or major damage will vary on a case-specific basis. Some things are simply intuitive and the the value/advantage of premixing the municipal water and dechlorinating agent in a reservoir BEFORE introducing it into the tank is one of them.
 
I love the way you ‘blah blah blah’ away factual details…

If you notice, the water immediately started to lighten in color…

Therefore the Prime immediately started to interact with the water/dye…

Due to excessive concentrations, it took some time for it to fully remove the effects of the dye…

Due to excessive concentrations it took 32 times the recommended dosage to remove the blue coloring…

Stop making more out of this than it is… It’s a neat video that proves nothing…

None the less… it was neat to watch and thanks to the OP for posting it…

I am by no means saying it’s a bad idea to dechlorinate the water before adding… but at the same time I’m not pretending it’s bad for your fish either…

As I very clearly mentioned earlier, different areas use different chlorine dosages. If you find that adding tap water & dechlorinator directly to your tank appears to agitate your fish, then I agree you should premix. But for you to judge my conditions based on your conditions… is irrational…
 
Ok, I have a toilet with the blue 2000 flushes tablet. I wonder how much prime it'll take to dissolve it.
 
ikts like oxy-clean for your fish! tired of fish staining your carpet? USE SEACHEM PRIME!
 
swede;3431108; said:
ikts like oxy-clean for your fish! tired of fish staining your carpet? USE SEACHEM PRIME!
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There is a bats chance in hell I would put prime on my carpet. I had my family over for my sister in laws birthday and my eheim 2215 crapped out.. Long story short I recover what bio media I can from the eheim (broken until parts arrive) and I threw some prime in the tank later. In a 16 X22 room 5 people were asking me if my fish tank smelled bad or if I farted...lol I don't notice the odor anymore but other people trip out :ROFL:
 
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