I always heard that taking water from a established tank wont do anything because the beneficial bacteria doesn't live in the water itself? I could have read it wrong, not sure. thanks for all the replies, its helped a lot. A little update... So i did take some of the ceramic cylinders from my 125 gallon filters and put them into the penguin 350 i had on my 40g. I tested the water the next day and the ammonia dropped a little and nitrites began to rise. I then tested nitrates and it came back positive for nitrates which is a good thing. Now im just waiting for ammonia and nitrites to drop to zero...hopefully it wont be long.