seeding filter

[ThePBM]

My source is a marine biologist that i've worked with at the waikiki aquarium. yours?

 

[TCZeli]

My source is a marine biologist that i've worked with at the waikiki aquarium. yours?

common sense, every hobbiest I have ever talked to, and multible threads about this on forum sites.

I do not care if your friend is a marine biologist, It dont work that way. When you poor conditioner in a bucket of water you can actually watch it start to sink, the conditioner needs to be circulated thru-out the water you cant just put some in and waa-laa every bit of cholrine is gone instantly.

You can ask any serious hobbiest if they simply poor conditioner in water and then poor water in tank, all within 30 sec. They will say no, they will say that they let it sit circulating for an hour, or that they dont circulate they just let the treated water sit for a day. I seriously doubt they all have it wrong and your the one that has it right.

you sure your friend didnt mean "yes it will get rid of the chorine" and you are jsut assuming/hoping he meant instantly because you do not have the patience to do it right?

 

[Bderick67]

As soon as the established filter is moved to the new tank, you will need to add a source of food for the BB in that filter. I would just add some fish, but don't add to many that you overload the established filter. What size tanks , filters and bioloads are you working with?

common sense, every hobbiest I have ever talked to, and multible threads about this on forum sites.

I do not care if your friend is a marine biologist, It dont work that way. When you poor conditioner in a bucket of water you can actually watch it start to sink, the conditioner needs to be circulated thru-out the water you cant just put some in and waa-laa every bit of cholrine is gone instantly.
You can ask any serious hobbiest if they simply poor conditioner in water and then poor water in tank, all within 30 sec. They will say no, they will say that they let it sit circulating for an hour, or that they dont circulate they just let the treated water sit for a day. I seriously doubt they all have it wrong and your the one that has it right.

you sure your friend didnt mean "yes it will get rid of the chorine" and you are jsut assuming/hoping he meant instantly because you do not have the patience to do it right?

I guess I'm not a serious hobbyist because thats the way I do it. I guess I've been really lucky because I have never had any problems doing it in this way.

 

[Miguel]

I guess I'm not a serious hobbyist because thats the way I do it. I guess I've been really lucky because I have never had any problems doing it in this way.

Hey Tczelli if your asking questions or opinions, the least you should do is try not be "uncivil", ok? People were trying to respond to you...

Do what and how you like..

 

[TCZeli]

Everyone has there own way, and if it works for you then great, that doesnt mean that it is right, and it doesnt mean that you are right. I apologize for being lazy and not finding more, but the below link is 1 thread that backs me up. Im to tired to search the internet right now for more, but trust me they are there. response #16 is what your gonna wanna read

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78415&page=2

If you are doing it within 30 seconds and not having problems then yippy for you, but it is not good to tell everyone that it is the right way to do it just because it works for you. Conditioner just doesnt work that fast.

 

[BIGgourami]

just fill the tank with tap water add teh conditioner and lurn a power head on or something to mix it all up, then move the filter over.
if you want the tank to cycle completely befoer you add fish put a shrimp in a pantyhose and let it sit in the tank for a week or so.

 

[Bderick67]

Everyone has there own way, and if it works for you then great, that doesnt mean that it is right, and it doesnt mean that you are right. I apologize for being lazy and not finding more, but the below link is 1 thread that backs me up. Im to tired to search the internet right now for more, but trust me they are there. response #16 is what your gonna wanna read

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78415&page=2

If you are doing it within 30 seconds and not having problems then yippy for you, but it is not good to tell everyone that it is the right way to do it just because it works for you. Conditioner just doesnt work that fast.

The problem with using threads and posts to back up your opinions is that generally they are just opinions of others(although Dr. Joe's opinions are highly valued).

I will however disagree with the both of you on the Conditioner taking an hour to do the job. I test for chlorine before I establish my methods of refill or fill. Two weeks ago I set up my 150g with a wet/dry trickle and filled with tap water. Within 24 hours of letting the water circulate through the system the chlorine tested at 0ppm. So the aging process works and can be sped up with areation.

So as far as the working instantly question. I went ahead and retested my method this morning. Filled a container with 1/2 gallon of water, tested for chlorine with result of 4-5ppm. I then added 1 drop of "Dechlor" brand water conditioner, then retested with in about 30 seconds time, with a result of 0ppm. I have found that conditioners using sodium thiosulfate, do work pretty much instantly on contact, although the contact with all of the water may take a few minutes, but I have never had a sitsuation where I still had any levels of chlorine when tested.

So I suppose yes, "yippy" for me.

 

[ThePBM]

it sure is intuitive (and ignorant) to think that a chemical needs to be "circulated" to come into contact with all of the water, as if it needs your help coming into contact with the molecules that it is to affect.
but, as any "serious hobbyist" that also understands basic chemistry will tell you, chemicals do not behave the same way as solid bits of matter. you are seriously trying to tell us all that de-chlor chemicals behave like little pebbles and they need to be manually moved about in the water. sorry to burst your must-be-hands-on bubble, but there is this thing called a concentration gradient that applies to chemicals and not pebbles.
so actually, it really is more like a "waa-laa" (it's actually voila) type of thing. as soon as de-chlor hits the water, the chlorine that gets neutralized creates an area where there is no chlorine, and the concentration gradient brings chlorine to fill that void, gets neutralized, etc.

btw i don't care if a published astrophysicist says the universe is expanding, i'd rather believe some backyard astronomy hobbyists that make posts online. righto.

 

[bigspizz]

it sure is intuitive (and ignorant) to think that a chemical needs to be "circulated" to come into contact with all of the water, as if it needs your help coming into contact with the molecules that it is to affect.
but, as any "serious hobbyist" that also understands basic chemistry will tell you, chemicals do not behave the same way as solid bits of matter. you are seriously trying to tell us all that de-chlor chemicals behave like little pebbles and they need to be manually moved about in the water. sorry to burst your must-be-hands-on bubble, but there is this thing called a concentration gradient that applies to chemicals and not pebbles.
so actually, it really is more like a "waa-laa" (it's actually voila) type of thing. as soon as de-chlor hits the water, the chlorine that gets neutralized creates an area where there is no chlorine, and the concentration gradient brings chlorine to fill that void, gets neutralized, etc.

btw i don't care if a published astrophysicist says the universe is expanding, i'd rather believe some backyard astronomy hobbyists that make posts online. righto.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67979


Chlorimines are a whole other ball game.......