Seeking origin of Ammonia burn Hoax...

[AndreR]

Dear Fishkeepers,

please help me finding the source of that rumor that ammonia causes burns on the fishskin bringing out darkening.

WHO originally said that, what ammonialevels is this "wise guy" talking about and where is any evidence...?

e.g.:

http://www.goldfishparadise.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31066

 

[Bderick67]

I don't know if this is true for goldies or not. Ammonia is not something you want in your fish tank, this is common sense. Why have you even posted this question, are ammonia levels high in your tank and you are trying to find justification?

Point blank ammonia is bad news for fish.

 

[dmopar74]

pour some ammonia on your skin and see if it causes burns

 

[ewurm]

Ammonia sucks. Will kill your fish. I am not worried about burns, i am worried about death.

 

[Miles]

Read up on Osmoregulation and the effects of ammonia on the fish's cellular structure.

 

[AndreR]

pour some ammonia on your skin and see if it causes burns

So you are a fan of Koivet-Kindergarten-Logic?!

http://www.koivet.com/html/glossary/glossary_results.php?glossary_id=13&search_term=ammonia burn


All the others, you didn´t catch my point....

...who affirms and who really proves?

 

[guppy]

That (darkening) is not one of the common symptoms that I know of. Those are, gill tissue damage, fin degeneration, rapid gilling, cloudy eyes, excessive slime production, reddish streaking like in hemoragic septocemia, loss of appetite, and death.

 

[AndreR]

That (darkening) is not one of the common symptoms that I know of. Those are, gill tissue damage, fin degeneration, rapid gilling, cloudy eyes, excessive slime production, reddish streaking like in hemoragic septocemia, loss of appetite, and death.

Exactly! ANd those symptoms are the basis for the following death.

IF Ammonia might burn the skin then the fish would already be dead....

...and the darkening indicating a migration of macrophages appears some time later.

That is why I am asking.

 

[AndreR]

As we evaluated the stupidness of ammonia burns...I am still looking for the origin...

No ideas?

 

[santoury]

If you consider darkening a "burn " Then look no further.

Ammonia can cause the opercular areas to turn a deep red, sometimes violet/grayish. Sorry dude, but it's not so much a hoax.