Setup for Small Central Americans

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In an attempt to find ways to conserve water which is becoming a huge issue in Southern California, I’ve decided to downsize the stock on my 280 and plant heavily to create a tank that can get by with fewer water changes. I’ve decided to go with a lightly stocked setup as well and have some fish on order along with some fish I’ve just received.

this is a far cry from being biotope correct but will feature fish that’ll go well with the smaller CA species.

the tank is 280 gallons with dimensions of 80x34x24” with a 100 gallon sump. The sump is setup to create a refugium which I’ll end up planting with a soil based substrate and will be heavily planted. I plan to add some Gammarus scuds to this refugium and the main tank to help with organic plant based detritus removal as well as a source of tasty live food. My hope is that a colony establishes itself in the sump and provides a source of live food for the main tank. The plan is also to use the sump to help with nitrate control and will likely be something I get going later this year.

the tank is planted with large Kleiner Bar swords, some anubias, water sprite, and Pygmy swords. Lighting is provided by pendent style LED’s on a moderate-high setting for a 12 hour photo period with a 3.5 hr sunrise and sunset so that the light is at its most intense setting for only 5 hours out of the 12.

Livestock:

- Thorichthys Aureus
- Amatitlania Nanoluteus
- Xiphophorus Alvarezi
- wild greeen Sailfin molly: Poecilia Latippina (impossible to find Velifera or Petensis)
- Pseudochalceus Kyburzi. These are from Choco state Columbia but figured they’d be a great substitute for the local characins in Central America.
- Two leftover Pseudanos Vari which are SA Anastomids that do a great job of keeping the wood and rocks clean with their grazing.

The two livebearer species will not only fill the middle and top of the water column but will provide additional algae control and their offspring will serve as a rare treat for their tankmates. The Pseudochalceus Kyburzi will mimic the medium sized characins while adding a nice splash of color.

this thread will be used to chronicle this setup as it matures.

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I had a similar situation here, when our island water plant went down for about 4 months.
With a simlar amount of gallons as yours, I had just a handful of fish, but over abundance of plants.
The only way to replace evaporated water was when it rained, and it was the dry season at the time.
I was amazed nitrate barely hit 5ppm during that time because of the plants and scarce feedings, Even after filtration was shut down, it had to be stopped because the tank and sump got so low. water level could not reach the overflows. Powerheads had to be used for flow

I have been watching the levels L Mead and Tahoe drop, it looks critical,
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I now keep my leaky 180 gal tank under the gutter, just for some minor water insurance reasons.
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I had a similar situation here, when our island water plant went down for about 4 months.
With a simlar amount of gallons as yours, I had just a handful of fish, but over abundance of plants.
The only way to replace evaporated water was when it rained, and it was the dry season at the time.
I was amazed nitrate barely hit 5ppm during that time because of the plants and scarce feedings, Even after filtration was shut down, it had to be stopped because the tank and sump got so low. water level could not reach the overflows. Powerheads had to be used for flow

I have been watching the levels L Mead and Tahoe drop, it looks critical,
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I now keep my leaky 180 gal tank under the gutter, just for some minor water insurance reasons.
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It was one of your threads that gave me the refugium idea so I fished out all the K1 and am researching what kind of plants and substrate to use. Can you share some of the features of your refugium?

this drought is BAD. Never seen it so bad before. I’m really worried about what will happen if we don’t get rai. Next winter.
 
Velifera were hard to find before I know they are in chicago…biggest mollys I ever saw males were east 6”+…
Wish I could’ve sourced some. Only ones around here are the domesticated strains
 
Check aquabid. I saw some Yucatán mollies recently. Anyway, one of the best places to find wild type livebarers. It’s nearly impossible to find any otherwise.
I reached out to him but he wasn’t able to confirm if they were Velifera.m so I passed. I agree, aquabid is the only place to find wild live bearers. That’s where I sourced the X Alvarezi.
 
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