sev id please

[peathenster]

"Green sev" is common name for H. efasciatus. Although "efasciatus" means "no bar" (i.e. no vertical bars on adult fish), it's not uncommon to see them showing multiple complete vertical bars. IMO this fish looks more like a female H. sp. "rotkeil" because of 1) the last bar being complete but all others being half; 2) very orange anal fin and 3) the blue eyelid. It's not uncommon to see H. sp. "rotkeil" without much red on the shoulder.

It should be noted that H. efasciatus and H. sp. "rotkeil" seem to be genetically fairly close, as one can breed them and get viable fry. It's possible that the fish in question is a "hybrid" (assuming they are two different species), but it's just a speculation.

On a side note, I wonder why we don't see wild caught H. efasciatus very often...

Here are a couple of pics of a "gree sev" (top) and a female "rotkeil" (bottom) I used to have. Both came from LFS. You can see a few red dots on the "rotkeil" if you try really hard...

Compared to a wild pair of "rotkeil" I acquired later:

 

[lmt6600]

You have some nice sevs Pea... I have some sevs that was sold to me as rotkeil and redfaces, they dont have red neck but only about 3 to 4 inches..

 

[ElectricBlueSeanBurch]

All the greens I have ever seen in my neck of the woods look exactly like the OP's including my big male. I find it very unlikely that my lfs is selling rotty's as green's... as there is a huge price difference. High quality green sevs normally develop bright red/orange anal fins and blue eyelids as they mature. Don't get me wrong, I would love to find out that my beloved "Thomas" is actually a rotkeil. But I love him either way

 

[MonteSS]

Here is my female LFS Green that looks like the OP. About 5+".

....Bill

 

[Words]

Very nice. Also like the Keyholes in the background!

 

[AcsFoolMike]

All the greens I have ever seen in my neck of the woods look exactly like the OP's including my big male. I find it very unlikely that my lfs is selling rotty's as green's... as there is a huge price difference. High quality green sevs normally develop bright red/orange anal fins and blue eyelids as they mature. Don't get me wrong, I would love to find out that my beloved "Thomas" is actually a rotkeil. But I love him either way

Ditto. I had two males a few months back that looked exactly like the OP's sev, and they were also sold to me as simply green sevs.

 

[peathenster]

I guess I didn't make it clear...

The OP's fish looks like the one in pic #2 of my earlier post. Now, does it look more similar to pic 1, or pic 3/4?

No disrespect but it would be more meaningful if the discussion can be focused on the characteristics of the fish, not what they are labeled as in LFS.

I hope Jeff doesn't mind me borrowing a couple of H. efasciatus pictures from his website. Again, "fasciatus" is derived from "fascia", the Latin word that means "stripe", and "efasciatus" means "no stripe".

 

[janiners305]

Awesome Uaru! You should buy some little ones (2") and raise them up. Watching them go through their different growth stages is a lot of fun.

Thats exactly what I did with the pair that I have now. I bought them when they were about 1 1/2-2", and my big guy is now close to roughly 9" or so. I've only had them for around 5 or 6 months

 

[Eläköön]

thats my old one just as soon as he started to get the rotkeil look, before that he looked just like a green but with a few orange specs on his shoulders,


also, i picked the best one, there were a lot of smaller ones who looked just like greens, if it wasn't for the fact that the parents were a wild pair in the same LFS I wouldn't have even believed some of them were Rotkeils

 

[Words]

Thats exactly what I did with the pair that I have now. I bought them when they were about 1 1/2-2", and my big guy is now close to roughly 9" or so. I've only had them for around 5 or 6 months

Now that's some rapid growth from a Uaru!