Severum ID help

[Disturbed.)]

I don't have the paperwork anymore because it was 5 years ago but I got a bunch of severum from a collector in South Florida that were supposedly fry from a wild caught pair of Rio Negro Heros Notatus. From the group I ended up with 2 mated pairs. 1 of which just murdered his mate so he'll be up for sale and tank repurposed and since my GF will be taking over my 300 gal system all of the fish including the mates pair of sevs will be sold as well. Thing is, I'm not positive they are Notatus. They have spots and can change color like cepholopods, I mean crazy fast in a wide variety of colors. The male that still has a mate will flash his bands on and off sometimes in a front to back wave as fast as once a second to get the attention of his mate. So pictures through glass don't serve them justice. All 3 are about 9-11" TL hard to tell in a 24" deep tank. Hoping someone can help confirm what they are and what they are worth. a few of the pics were too large apparently

 

[Deadeye]

Looks just like my classic green/turquoise severum, Heros efasciatus.
ryansmith83

 

[PhishMon84]

To me, they look like what was once called Heros appendiculatus or the turquoise severum

 

[ryansmith83]

These are H. efasciatus. In addition to not having the correct coloration for notatus, both notatus and appendiculatus have black splotches on the lower flanks which are formed by the bottom half of their stress bars. You can see in the photos that in relaxed coloration, the fish don’t show these blotches.

 

[ryansmith83]

See the splotches formed by the lower stress bars here. This is shown on some degree with all appendiculatus-like and notatus-like species.

 

[Disturbed.)]

Are you talking about the few lacking black patches in the bands in that photo or that the bands show on the bottom half no matter what because if I didn't know better, that is a pic of one of my fish since they show that half band pattern a lot. Sorry for my ignorance I'm trying to see what you see

 

[Disturbed.)]

And I'll be upfront here in the last few years I've lost a lot of my sight to glaucoma and astigmatism so I may have to wait till the better half gets off work to show her the photos

 

[Disturbed.)]

Or I mis read / mis thought that and the picture you posted is of a notatus-like specimen not a notatus

 

[PhishMon84]

Are you talking about the few lacking black patches in the bands in that photo or that the bands show on the bottom half no matter what because if I didn't know better, that is a pic of one of my fish since they show that half band pattern a lot. Sorry for my ignorance I'm trying to see what you see

I see the same bars in your photos as well as the ones ryan shared which is why i believe this to be H. appendiculatus

 

[ryansmith83]

Here are your fish, notice in the area I drew a square around there are no half-bars.


Here are Heros appendiculatus, from Peru, with a red square drawn around the blotches formed by the lower half of their stress bars.


Here is a wild Heros notatus male of mine, from Guyana, with a red square drawn around the blotches formed by the lower stress bars.


All notatus forms have these marks which are always present. Ditto for appendiculatus and appendiculatus-like species. They are also present on rotkeil, which are very similar to appendiculatus and also found in Peru.

Heros efasciatus don’t always show these markings, and often the bars fade entirely in relaxed coloration as seen in your photos.