severumx parrot

[izzy_here]

It could take some back crossing to get a nice parrot. But if it is true I should see some signs in the first batch of fry, slightly shorter than their siblings, possible slight parrot features.

I believe back crossing is the key....and that theres one, possibly more, species being overlooked..

 

[izzy_here]

I'm definitely using creamsicle midas, I'd love to breed some creamsicle kk parrots.

 

[wild bill]

How does one go about this back crossing as male hybrids are supposed to be sterile. At least a large portion of the male offspring are wondering this because we have some first time rt we would like to breed back to one another. But no ones seems to know a ratio for fertile males. I to would love to try crossing the midas and the red head to create some parrots as they never seem to go out of style.

 

[CAaddict]

How does one go about this back crossing as male hybrids are supposed to be sterile. At least a large portion of the male offspring are wondering this because we have some first time rt we would like to breed back to one another. But no ones seems to know a ratio for fertile males..

i wouldnt even like to guess the ratio of fertility

I believe back crossing is the key....and that theres one, possibly more, species being overlooked..

what other species would be involved ? id say all the fish involved would have to be orange or more orange/red in colour

 

[izzy_here]

How does one go about this back crossing as male hybrids are supposed to be sterile. At least a large portion of the male offspring are wondering this because we have some first time rt we would like to breed back to one another. But no ones seems to know a ratio for fertile males. I to would love to try crossing the midas and the red head to create some parrots as they never seem to go out of style.

Rt's produce fertile males at 62% (Texas) purity. If it were me I'd back cross one female rt fry to pure Texas and another female to midas/red devil. Both of the resulting strains would be fertile, I'd try two pairs from both strains, one a male (Mostly) texas to a (mostly) midas female, the other would be the opposite pairing, a (mostly) midas male to a (mostly) Texas female. That would give you a lot to work with.

Alternatively, back cross a female rt fry to pure Texas to produce a (fertile) 75% Texas male. Then back cross to the mother or an aunt to produce 62.% pure Texas fry. At that point you could cross to any likely female but perhaps would have the best results using mom or aunty again.

 

[izzy_here]

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...what other species would be involved ? id say all the fish involved would have to be orange or more orange/red in colour

Could be any number of species, the fader gene from the midas/rd blood affects any species bred to it. That same gene removes all dark pigmentation..even convict X midas/rd would be hard to id unless you know cons well.

 

[CAaddict]

Could be any number of species, the fader gene from the midas/rd blood affects any species bred to it. That same gene removes all dark pigmentation..even convict X midas/rd would be hard to id unless you know cons well.

i forgot about the fader gene.i bought a texas acuple months ago to grow and and breed with my midas for a possible RT project but now relising id need another pair for better results. also i think its a SB bcuz its growing slow as f**k. although it could be stunted, IDK but id love to see what my midas and parrot juvis look like in afew months time. the parrot has less few parrot trait but a deffinate parrot.

 

[wild bill]

That fertility rate will that be in the first texas parrot cross or would that be the second generation. We had a fairly good yellowy orange turn out I am still hoping the color will darken as they mature. Our original rd took a while to turn deep orange hope the same holds true with the rt's.

 

[izzy_here]

That fertility rate will that be in the first texas parrot cross or would that be the second generation. We had a fairly good yellowy orange turn out I am still hoping the color will darken as they mature. Our original rd took a while to turn deep orange hope the same holds true with the rt's.

The second generation. You back cross a female from the first texas X parrot cross to texas to get a fertile male.

 

[izzy_here]

....Keep having this funny thought about Archocentrus centrarchus too...the eyes. Look at a A. cen's eyes, they have that weird little squiggle shape to them, just like parrots and parrot hybrids. Not sure how common that is in Vieja/Amphilophus...?

Wow, the eyes aren't the ONLY thing that suggest they may have been used in making parrots and or fh...the fins alone..look at the fin shape..look familiar to anyone?