sexying Geo proximus
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I'm still learning my IDing of geos but here is my shot. I believe Ed was right about the first pic/geo being G. winemilleri because of the preopercular bar and 4 wide lateral bars (easier to see if the fish is stressed). The others look G. abalios to me but I could be wrong. I dont know the identifying characteristics of Pindare so Ed or somebody will have to inform us.
Yep. I agree with whoever said one winemilleri and the others appear to be abalios.
Are these fish from a wild collection?
Were they from an order(s) placed from here?
Both of those species could conceivably appear within the same import via wild Colombia/Venezuela collections.
Pindare and parnaibae are each from Brazil. They look similar to each other at first glance, but they are distinguishable if you narrow your sights to the caudal pattern in particular. My old friend John OMalley turned me onto that little difference after I'd shipped him some fry of each species years ago.
You can check them and other earth eaters out at the below thread if you like.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194494
Proximus have a very large, square blotch on their sides. The blotch is located high on their sides. They would come from of a wild Brazilian import. In all the years I've been importing fish, I've received one and only one true proximus from the wild. Exporters frequently advertise this fish on stock lists, but invariably it comes in as another Geophagus species.
Winemilleri, although known from Venezuelan collections as well as the Rio Negro (Brazil), have to my knowledge, entered this country as wild collections only a couple times.
At this time, I do have a large wild pair that were collected in Venezuela. They haven't spawned yet, but they do get along very well thus far in their current home - a 50 gallon tank.
Ironically, I've come to realize that captive bred winemilleri juveniles may very well have been imported a few times in recent years. I actually brought these fish in and marketed them as proximus, which is what I purchased as from specialized breeders.
It was only after I'd kept a group behind to raise up from the last import of these captive bred juveniles that I noticed they didn't appear to look like proximus. Currently they are approximately 2.5-3" in size, so I can get a better look at the lateral blotch. They don't have the characteristic square blotch which appears higher up the sides on the body of proximus.
I'm keeping a eye on them as they mature. Time will tell.
Are these fish from a wild collection?
Were they from an order(s) placed from here?
Both of those species could conceivably appear within the same import via wild Colombia/Venezuela collections.
Pindare and parnaibae are each from Brazil. They look similar to each other at first glance, but they are distinguishable if you narrow your sights to the caudal pattern in particular. My old friend John OMalley turned me onto that little difference after I'd shipped him some fry of each species years ago.
You can check them and other earth eaters out at the below thread if you like.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194494
Proximus have a very large, square blotch on their sides. The blotch is located high on their sides. They would come from of a wild Brazilian import. In all the years I've been importing fish, I've received one and only one true proximus from the wild. Exporters frequently advertise this fish on stock lists, but invariably it comes in as another Geophagus species.
Winemilleri, although known from Venezuelan collections as well as the Rio Negro (Brazil), have to my knowledge, entered this country as wild collections only a couple times.
At this time, I do have a large wild pair that were collected in Venezuela. They haven't spawned yet, but they do get along very well thus far in their current home - a 50 gallon tank.
Ironically, I've come to realize that captive bred winemilleri juveniles may very well have been imported a few times in recent years. I actually brought these fish in and marketed them as proximus, which is what I purchased as from specialized breeders.
It was only after I'd kept a group behind to raise up from the last import of these captive bred juveniles that I noticed they didn't appear to look like proximus. Currently they are approximately 2.5-3" in size, so I can get a better look at the lateral blotch. They don't have the characteristic square blotch which appears higher up the sides on the body of proximus.
I'm keeping a eye on them as they mature. Time will tell.
Thanks for the detailed post Jeff, good luck with your winemilleri pair! Careless mistake on my part regarding the caudal pattern of G. pindare.
edit: I do have a question about your photographic library. Is the picture of G. surinamensis not G. abalios?
edit: I do have a question about your photographic library. Is the picture of G. surinamensis not G. abalios?
