Shamu at Sea world Kills his trainer...

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Another reason I don't believe Cetaceans should be kept in captivity. Unlike most fish, even Sand Tiger Sharks (they are in every aquarium) Cetaceans are oceanic roamers. Sand Tigers will occupy the same reef or wreck for decades. Not Cetaceans. Think how bored and unstimulated the Whale must have been. I'm sure it wasn't a deliberate attack, probably just playing but didn't know its own strength.
 
This is what happens when humans think that they can train and humanize some of natures most powerful creatures. I don't consider this sad the trainers have weighed the risks and chose to work with an animal that could easily take their life.its part of it and one of the down sides to working with natures creatures.if that's what they loved doing atleast they died doing what they love and my prayers go out to their family but again tey are working with wild and powerful animals these things are bound to happen
 
Carne!;3924064; said:
Personally I think the Orca should be put down.

If they are as smart as people say they are and have spent lots of time with the trainers, the Orca should of knew how to handle the trainer. With that, he should be treated like any other Human Attacking Animal.

I also dont think anything that big and shows signs of stress (fin curled) should be housed in a big pond. I think places like this set them self up for Failure (Death or things that go wrong)

Just my honest opinion

that's the thing though, THEY aren't human. You can't project human morality onto another species. I'm no expert on whale cognition but I would imagine being able to breech on command does not equate to higher moral reasoning. It's an ANIMAL, a really massive, dangerous, smart predator at that. You can't anthropomorphize a wild animal like that.
 
Diogenes;3924119; said:
that's the thing though, THEY aren't human. You can't project human morality onto another species. I'm no expert on whale cognition but I would imagine being able to breech on command does not equate to higher moral reasoning. It's an ANIMAL, a really massive, dangerous, smart predator at that. You can't anthropomorphize a wild animal like that.
i agree with this reply.. they do not have the Moral reasoning... that says it all...
 
I know whales are mammals, but would you trust yourself around one of your fish if it was 12,000lbs? Sure I can train my catfish to be pet, or stingray to take food from my hand, but if one of them could fit me in their mouth, hell no. Im really not surprised at all, and even more surprised it doesnt happen more often with large undomesticated animals.
 
I would be a Liar if I said I don't feel bad for the Orca.
The more I think about it, i'm half and half.
Here is why? Let him live but free him where he came from
put him down because there is no where to house him. I highly doubt SeaWorld will rehome him due to he will not produce $$ for them and fill just use $ to feed him.

Do I think the Orca is a victim, oh yes!
He did not choose to be there. So I am now torn in between
 
I highly doubt SeaWorld will rehome him due to he will not produce $$ for them and fill just use $ to feed him.

They have stated that he will be kept and cared for with more stringent handling procedures. My understanding is that his primary purpose is for the breading program and that he is the most successful bull they have had.

I don't think life for him is going to change much. Probably the trainers will just not get as close to him.
 
jcardona1;3922257; said:
yeah but see thats the problem. cant go around wiping out every animal that turns around bites or kills a human. why not kill the surfer that got attacked by a shark? or why not kill the camper/hiker that got mauled by a bear?

with whales, its like "ah this one's no good anymore, we'll just kill it and go get another one". i'm the most anti-PETA person there could be, but this just bothers me :)

you went way off there with your arguments. I'm not even sure how to respond

just answer this, what do you suppose they should do then? they have to keep it isolated. unless they keep it with the rest and keep taking risks of swimming around with it. i think that it can't be safe swimming around with it. if the reports are true, it has killed before. why this wasn't dealt with at the time, I don't know. so you have to keep it isolated. now like i said, what kind of life is that? what happens to animals or even humans who are isolated from the rest??? they turn angry and have friggin issues. even feeding it, you have to be careful. wether you isolate it or put it down,.............. again, the whale loses in the end

the real problem is this, there are certain animals that i think belong in the wild. they are just not meant to be kept in captivity and trained to do tricks. i think lions, tigers and bears , oh my,........... along with killer whales should not be used for entertainment. if kept captive, they should be in an enviornment that replicates their natural surrounding
 
TTTT;3922620; said:
Look at it this way. People can see the grace and beauty of an orca up close. They learn to respect instead of fear. With captive orcas, we have gained knowledge and they are no longer hunted. For the individual animal, captivity is bad, but for orcas as a whole, it is a good thing.

easy for someone free in your own home and enviornment to say. free to come and go as you please. how would you feel if you were kept in a cage so that others can learn your ways and appreciate your beauty from outside of your enclosed home?

it's called national geographic channel. the nature shows. i grew up watching nature shows and i learned a lot more from watching those shows that have the animals in their natural enviornments doing animal things than i've learned watching them beg for food, do silly poses and jump through hoops for a snack. it is so STUPID to try to teach people about a killer whale in a fish bowl. watch the nature channel and you will learn more in 30 mins than you would with an annual pass. trust me

and i don't care how many times i see this animal in a fish bowl, i will still fear it. it's friggin 1 million pounds and have teeth the size of my foot. it can slurp me up like a clam in a half shell
 
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