Shinisaurus crocodilurus

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HPIZZLE;5018598; said:
inredible lizards. i would love for you to share more often.
Cheers!
A. gigas;5018780; said:
Extremely nice!! Ship one of them my way? ;)
Maybe... I'll trade you a couple for some designer GTPs you have over there

coura;5019120; said:
Owesame :) Are yours from a local breeder? I know that a few people are working with them in Britain.
No these were from holland I believe, 5 juvs, all related, growing them on to sort out sexes then maybe try and trade for some new blood.

ceeej31;5019123; said:
very nice, any chance of us getting a full tank shot?
I'll try soon
 
foto69man;5023367; said:
I have seen these guys at zoos before...they are awesome. What's the care requirements like?

P.S. I may come steal one when I get to germany in october... :headbang2
Fairly easy really. Room temperature water, warmer part of the year they are kept at room temp, to be honest here in the UK they could probably be kept at room temp all year around and lower. They go below 10 degrees for their hibernation period. I have a heat source that allows them to get up to about 25-26 degrees if they want, however they almost always stay in the cooler areas. Gravid females are more likely to bask where theres more heat, otherwise they like being cool. Average annual temperature is just below 20 degrees for some localities.

Give them a large water area, with branching overhanging. They like to hang out on branches overhanging water or on rocks close to the waters edge, allowing them to flee from predators, which I provide (not the predators of course). Food wise, they're natural diet includes all kinds of invertabrates (cockroaches/worms/katydids/spiders etc), small crustaceans, tadpoles/small frogs, small fish... they'd probably eat anything that they can fit in their mouths. I try to give them a varied diet... cockroachs, crickets, worms, tadpoles when available. Might try some aquatic shrimp at some point.

rudukai13;5023505; said:
+1 for full tank shots please. Any behavioural interactions of particular note so far?
I'll try and get some soon. They're being kept communually at the moment, I've heard as they get older they can get territorial, but at the moment they are still young, all feeding, all similar weights and sizes and no aggression problems.

I know a lot of people keep them in very aquatic environments, I've chosen a set up with a good sized water and land area. Some individuals spend most their time in the water, others prefer being on branching and one individual prefers to be on the land area most the time. I'm going to be building a new viv soon, drawing from research into the type of vegetation, perch preferences and natural environment to try and create a nice naturalistic planted set up for my living room.
 
Holland of corse, where allot of very cool stuff comes from :D
 
davo;5035650; said:
Fairly easy really. Room temperature water, warmer part of the year they are kept at room temp, to be honest here in the UK they could probably be kept at room temp all year around and lower. They go below 10 degrees for their hibernation period. I have a heat source that allows them to get up to about 25-26 degrees if they want, however they almost always stay in the cooler areas. Gravid females are more likely to bask where theres more heat, otherwise they like being cool. Average annual temperature is just below 20 degrees for some localities.

Give them a large water area, with branching overhanging. They like to hang out on branches overhanging water or on rocks close to the waters edge, allowing them to flee from predators, which I provide (not the predators of course). Food wise, they're natural diet includes all kinds of invertabrates (cockroaches/worms/katydids/spiders etc), small crustaceans, tadpoles/small frogs, small fish... they'd probably eat anything that they can fit in their mouths. I try to give them a varied diet... cockroachs, crickets, worms, tadpoles when available. Might try some aquatic shrimp at some point.


I'll try and get some soon. They're being kept communually at the moment, I've heard as they get older they can get territorial, but at the moment they are still young, all feeding, all similar weights and sizes and no aggression problems.

I know a lot of people keep them in very aquatic environments, I've chosen a set up with a good sized water and land area. Some individuals spend most their time in the water, others prefer being on branching and one individual prefers to be on the land area most the time. I'm going to be building a new viv soon, drawing from research into the type of vegetation, perch preferences and natural environment to try and create a nice naturalistic planted set up for my living room.

Are you giving the temps in Celsius? Just wanted to make sure... :)

So I take it they havent been too difficult to get feeding then?
 
Yes celcius, sorry. I believe the breeder was one of the ESP studbook keepers for this species so I imagine he had them feeding before he let them go, and the guy who had them for a short while inbetween said they fed fine for him too. They did take a bit longer than I expected them to eat... then again I got them in late november when it was cooling time for them anyway, but they're pretty voracious now things have warmed up. I imagine they'd be easy enough to get started... when they get to frightened/annoyed they open their mouth and gape as a go away defence, so would be easy to assist feed them till they started if picky in the first place.
 
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