Short Body Oscar

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It does look shorter than normal to my eye. I don't think there is anything wrong with short bodied fish. What we call a deformity - (line breeding this specific trait is not what I'm referring to, rather the natural rare oddity of a SB fish.) Nature might call it evolution, like when the all the crabs with tiny claws laughed at the new crab with huge claws. Then the crab with the huge claws crushed the other crabs and eat them with his new big claw. :headbang2
 
cacichilds said:
It does look shorter than normal to my eye. I don't think there is anything wrong with short bodied fish. What we call a deformity - (line breeding this specific trait is not what I'm referring to, rather the natural rare oddity of a SB fish.) Nature might call it evolution, like when the all the crabs with tiny claws laughed at the new crab with huge claws. Then the crab with the huge claws crushed the other crabs and eat them with his new big claw. :headbang2
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I am very doubtful SB cichlids are going to crush and eat normal cichlids. Maybe it is evolution for an Oscar to stay alive in a 20 gallon tank ;)


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I don't see that short of a body to be honest. If I was breeding Oscars I would've most likly culled that one had I noticed it. I have no idea how rare that is in nature, I would imagin that particular fish was part of a fish farm breeding and not a case of evolution in the wild. However if you like it keep it.

Remember when you post things like this you must be perpaired to hear (I didn't say agree with) other peoples opinions on what is a controversial subject. It makes for an interesting debate as long as no one gets nasty or personal. Enjoy your fish, I'd be interested to see it as it grows so keep us posted.
 
fish on fire im tired of seeing you trolling the hybrid forum voicing your oppinon in every thread how you hate hybrids this and that guess what? no one cares
 
cacichilds said:
It does look shorter than normal to my eye. I don't think there is anything wrong with short bodied fish. What we call a deformity - (line breeding this specific trait is not what I'm referring to, rather the natural rare oddity of a SB fish.) Nature might call it evolution, like when the all the crabs with tiny claws laughed at the new crab with huge claws. Then the crab with the huge claws crushed the other crabs and eat them with his new big claw. :headbang2
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So most people says it looks slightly SB, but not a true expression of the trait. Meaning it's body is barely shorter than a average Oscar in comparison to other true short bodied fish. As for the deformity which your saying perhaps might be a product of evolution, it isn't. Remember evolution is the adaptation of a life form to changing conditions, an adaptation that helps serve the better meant of the animals biological imperative. In no way does having a short body(which impairs overall swimming ability) act as an improvement in the animals design to enable a better survival rate. Your example of the crab and the larger claw are a perfect example to support my point rather than yours. A bigger claw can help the crab and give it an overall edge over the other crabs so it's possibly a result of a biological imperative. Being hindered in swimming and looking "cute" to a select group of fishkeepers is hardly what one would call a evolutionary step forward, such as in a SB fish.

Not all one offs are a sign of evolution, not every abnormality a potential super fish. For instance turtles are occasionally born with 2 heads and die without human intervention. They are one off's and some people find unique individuals such as them appealing. Check some turtle sites and you'll see a two headed turtle commands a higher price than regular turtles. Despite their appeal to certain people, the two heads are hardly a step up the evolutionary latter.

Here's some true short bodies that show the true expression of the trait,which is still a deformity even in these carefully line bred fish. Just a deformity that was bred for because people found them appealing visually.
Shortbody FH.jpg

By the way I'm someone who finds this deformity attractive as I'm a Blood Parrot(deformed beauty in my opinion) lover and would love to own the fish pictured.

And thank you Lupin and Miguel for helping back my original point.

Shortbody FH.jpg
 
supergourami said:
fish on fire im tired of seeing you trolling the hybrid forum voicing your oppinon in every thread how you hate hybrids this and that guess what? no one cares
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Eh, I don't like hybrids of a cross between 2 pure species. I don't really have any qualms with flowerhorns, just don't like how big some of their humps get, lol. And I'm not trolling, just stating my opinions. The Oscar isn't a hybrid by the way, it's just deformed.
 
supergourami said:
fish on fire im tired of seeing you trolling the hybrid forum voicing your oppinon in every thread how you hate hybrids this and that guess what? no one cares
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Not spending too much time in the hybrid section I cannot attest to fishonfires trolling or lack thereof in that section but, this is the SA/CA section so what is the point here?

Also do not really see an exceptional abnormality but would like to see this fish as it grows.
 
I see both sides of the coin here...where as the OP could have changed his reply and not made it seem harsh, he didn't ask what your opinion on hybrids was, he asked if it was rare.

Everyone has opinions, how they are received sometimes depends on how they are voiced.
 
Koltsix,

Hails yes. I would love a swarm of these. I too enjoy "deformed beauty." I have had some blood parrots and even a "jellybean" parrot (solid white). I loved the jelly bean parrot's personality. A flowerhorn parrot would be a very nice fish to have. Looks so interesting.

Looking at all the pictures makes me wish there was an Oscar parrot. That would probably one ugly slimy marble but I'd enjoy it. lol

Kaleidoscope,

I would imagine it would be shorter as well. :)
 
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