shovel nose eating itself to death?

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don't feed him for a couple of days and he will try to eat your hand :), thats how you get him to eat non live. They will eat anything when hungry. Just my experience.
 
Surprised no one has mentioned this yet but besides the fact that all LFS feeders can carry diseases and parasites because of the extremely poor overstocked conditions of LFS feeder fish tanks (which is why most people quarantine them for a month) gold fish in particular are awful feeder fish because they contain practically no nutritional value for your fish and are cold water fish that contain high amounts of fat that can cause your fish to develop fatty liver disease.

I'd never feed any of my fish gold fish as a feeder. Great example of the poor conditions of feeders at LFS. I am breeding ghost shrimp in my 10 gallon planted so I have a good healthy live feeder food source for my other tanks (plus they are fun to watch and are good at tending to algae in planted tanks) and when I purchased my group of them I got about 6 dozen and within the first week about roughly 3 dozen of them died. The rest are now all healthy and doing well.

Side note: I'm sure your catfish will be fine though. Ever seen those gulpers eat something 3x their size? I know the gulper's skin is much more elastic"ish" than a regular cat I'm pretty sure all cats have pretty elastic"ish" skin. I'd definitely remove the last GF as earlier people recommended and not feed for a few days just to make sure he digest it all properly.
 
He did just that but he eat 5 until he was full. I do not see what the problem is.
 
smitty03281964;5037991; said:
He did just that but he eat 5 until he was full. I do not see what the problem is.
umm...
Jon M;5037986; said:
Surprised no one has mentioned this yet but besides the fact that all LFS feeders can carry diseases and parasites because of the extremely poor overstocked conditions of LFS feeder fish tanks (which is why most people quarantine them for a month) gold fish in particular are awful feeder fish because they contain practically no nutritional value for your fish and are cold water fish that contain high amounts of fat that can cause your fish to develop fatty liver disease.

I'd never feed any of my fish gold fish as a feeder. Great example of the poor conditions of feeders at LFS. I am breeding ghost shrimp in my 10 gallon planted so I have a good healthy live feeder food source for my other tanks (plus they are fun to watch and are good at tending to algae in planted tanks) and when I purchased my group of them I got about 6 dozen and within the first week about roughly 3 dozen of them died. The rest are now all healthy and doing well.

Side note: I'm sure your catfish will be fine though. Ever seen those gulpers eat something 3x their size? I know the gulper's skin is much more elastic"ish" than a regular cat I'm pretty sure all cats have pretty elastic"ish" skin. I'd definitely remove the last GF as earlier people recommended and not feed for a few days just to make sure he digest it all properly.
 
Tramonte172;5036003; said:
You would be surprised at how much they can cram into their stomachs. He will likely be fine. As previously stated, you may want to remove the last one but he should be fine.

Egon;5036022; said:
I think it will be fine too. Start planning for a water change in a few days ;)

x2 for both of you lol
 
Jon M;5037986; said:
gold fish in particular are awful feeder fish because they contain practically no nutritional value for your fish and are cold water fish that contain high amounts of fat that can cause your fish to develop fatty liver disease.

I've had fish jump out and die. Bang their heads and die. Get mauled by another fish and die. Power outages, forgetting to turn off water during water change, and/or forget to stop drain and kill fish. Broken/fail tank seams. Had a little kid feed my fish a large bag of rice, killed everything in the tank.

I have to say I never had or even heard of a fish that died from "fatty liver disease". How long would this take? Years I would bet? If it's even possible? I bet there's just one percent of fish keepers that have kept a fish alive for over 10 years. My personal best is 15 years for a common pleco and it died in a ice storm power outage event.

So please give the gold fish a break. Your fish most likely wont live long enough for the "fatty liver death" :screwy:
 
Egon;5039365; said:
I've had fish jump out and die. Bang their heads and die. Get mauled by another fish and die. Power outages, forgetting to turn off water during water change, and/or forget to stop drain and kill fish. Broken/fail tank seams. Had a little kid feed my fish a large bag of rice, killed everything in the tank.

I have to say I never had or even heard of a fish that died from "fatty liver disease". How long would this take? Years I would bet? If it's even possible? I bet there's just one percent of fish keepers that have kept a fish alive for over 10 years. My personal best is 15 years for a common pleco and it died in a ice storm power outage event.

So please give the gold fish a break. Your fish most likely wont live long enough for the "fatty liver death" :screwy:
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instead of goldfish i tent to use XL mollies uts just that after Q'ing them all i just dump them in and i find goldfish just a lil to messy when added all at once (my gars eat 200+ a week) it all comes down to you whatever floats your boat. And your fish would probley die of old age before fatty liver disease kicks into full throtal. Anyway who's fish dies of old age anyways? Most fish die of freak accidents
 
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