Bagarius Lica(from Thailand is the consensus)
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Bagarius Lica
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Ohh alright well he's still in the conditioning proccess despite it growing fast really trying to let it put on some weight! If you dont mind what would be the difference between lica and the real yarrelli?
The reason I think your fish is the following:
1- From Singapore. Singapore is right smack in the middle of the originally described range of B. lica (Volz, 1903). Its possible that it could be an import, but it is more likely that it was caught locally.
2- Your fish appears to have a dorsal hump. This means that the Indian fish appear to me to be much more dorso-ventrally compressed than do the one that you have. B. lica lives in a more conventional river than yarrelli. It doesn't have to be compressed to deal with the rapids.
3- Fins. The Indian fish tend to have fins that do a good impression of wings. Yours still has the posterior rise to its pectoral fins that seems to be ubiquitous in the genus, but they are severely reduced in relation to the Indian rapids-dwelling fishes.
4- Head shape and size. the lica seem to have a larger head than the Indians, they are rather like Rutilus in their shape but with colors like a yarrelli.
When its grown, I expect your fish to be thick and sausage like in comparison to the somewhat dorso-ventrally compressed Indian fish. Off of the top of my head I cannot think of an appropriate analogy in common species unfortunately.
Keep in mind now, according to the current literature based on Roberts (1983), your fish would be considered B. yarrelli. However, due to the limited scope by which Roberts diagnosed his species (vertebral morphology and fin origins), what he called yarrelli has already produced one new species based on varying morphologies of the proportions of body parts, eyes and tubercles. Given the fact that B. rutilus was separated on these differences from the Indian populations, I suspect that if Bagarius was revised, B. lica would be confirmed as valid.
Please see my thread on the convoluted phylogeny of Bagarius for more information.
I don't think there are any wild fish found in Singapore either, especially larger predatory fish. Singapore is mostely artificla city, lakes, and run offs. I have a bunch of pictures of bagarius that I've bought and sold, imported and exported from all over their range.
Even from the same location, like India 2 years ago, I imported 80 pcs of them, some died on arrival, but many had different patterns and colors.
Even from the same location, like India 2 years ago, I imported 80 pcs of them, some died on arrival, but many had different patterns and colors.
Next time you place an order and get multiple color patterns wes PM me and let me know. I would be interested in purchasing well..... every different pattern and body type
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It looks like Bagarius Lica to me (from Thailand) as Rob had stated there are body type differences. The body type seems more similar to a Rutilus and seems to be a regional body type due to change in environment. The head appears larger and wider while the body itself has a taller and has a less compressed stance. Your fish has a similar hump as my Rutilus. If you look at pictures of Masamune (my Indian) you will notice the compression of the body. This body type is different when contrasted with your own fish. This is why I strongly feel Bagarius Lica
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