Silver Arows may be banned in coming years!
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Lol... thats a big word can you use it in a sentence.
I'm just a material boy living in a material world. It's not like arowana don't have 5 billion viable offspring we can still collect them, but it's also ok if someone wants to donate a few acres of land to breed these mofo's. Let me lay my opinion down. I'm pro private breeder anti 10k pond breeder. I hate the idea that we keep fish in such terrible living conditions that they evolve to resist higher ammonia levels, bleaching and injecting. YAY it's radioactive tetra.
I'm just a material boy living in a material world. It's not like arowana don't have 5 billion viable offspring we can still collect them, but it's also ok if someone wants to donate a few acres of land to breed these mofo's. Let me lay my opinion down. I'm pro private breeder anti 10k pond breeder. I hate the idea that we keep fish in such terrible living conditions that they evolve to resist higher ammonia levels, bleaching and injecting. YAY it's radioactive tetra.
There's something we are missing here... At least in Brazil, the fishermen do NOT eat adult aros anymore. They catch the brooding parents only for the fry they carry. Some years ago, it was like "not-wasting the fry my meal carries", but now it's "take the precious fry and let this dead not-so-tasty adult fish on the river". This activity is reducing the population quickly, and since you take both the adults and fry off the environment, their gene pool is completely lost from this point on. That's the "environmental" side.
And the "economical" side... Since there are so much harvested WC fry in the market, the captive breeding programs of SA arowanas are not so attractive, because of the reduced price tag of the harvested ones. We have several arapaima breeding projects here in Brazil, but no arowana captive breeding facilities. And this comes from the fact that WC fry are cheap, and they are preferred by ANY potential buyer.
I really think a higher price tag leads to less abuse and niskeeping, and to less DEAD aros due to poor maintenance. And if it lowers the demand, there will be less specimens collected in the wild to offer. This means less harvesting and as a consequence less impact on the arowana population.
A temporary ban is needed for the recovery of the arowana populations, and it wouldn't harm them BTW. Or it is REALLY necessary to include these species in CITES to protect them? I honestly hope it's NOT.
Best regards.
Daniel.
And the "economical" side... Since there are so much harvested WC fry in the market, the captive breeding programs of SA arowanas are not so attractive, because of the reduced price tag of the harvested ones. We have several arapaima breeding projects here in Brazil, but no arowana captive breeding facilities. And this comes from the fact that WC fry are cheap, and they are preferred by ANY potential buyer.
I really think a higher price tag leads to less abuse and niskeeping, and to less DEAD aros due to poor maintenance. And if it lowers the demand, there will be less specimens collected in the wild to offer. This means less harvesting and as a consequence less impact on the arowana population.
A temporary ban is needed for the recovery of the arowana populations, and it wouldn't harm them BTW. Or it is REALLY necessary to include these species in CITES to protect them? I honestly hope it's NOT.
Best regards.
Daniel.
this problem is apperant in almost all of the pet trade from dogs that led to those horrible puppy factories to exportation of some species that really just dont do to well in a captive environment once they are taking out of their natural habit. I have noticed (and this goes sort of off topic here) how some species of box turtles are have been depleted so much (also due to development) they have been banned to be kept as pets in their own indigenous states.... as for the arows well I have never owned one and I wont lie to you all I was tempted to own one at one point however I try to make reasonable decisions whenever I want to buy and own something so I decided not to....im sure there are other people like that too.... everyone starts somewhere I geuss is what im trying to say....I mean really how many fish in fish stores like in the walmart fish area or petco really make it? Some I geuss ill and close to death never make it to begin with..but they will always be there because peoples want them experienced or not. I believe the problems lies in how fast an animal can reproduce I would never pay 50 dollars for a common guppy or a common gold fish why? they are not rare fish that are hard to breed. But I also dont think cranking up prices will change anything there will always be people who buy things out of impulse or curiousity I believe there should be a seasonal restriction perhaps once the natural stock regains its healthy population? well thats my opinioun what would you guys think? 
That is correct but, as I already pointed out to Vitaliy, it has no effect on the wild populations of the species.
Now I see where your (and Vitaliy's) mistake is: You want to control demand with a price hike. But it is a fantasy. In real life price is a natural result of supply and demand. If you want to raise prices, you will have to mess with that balance in some way. I am not sure how it is you are imagining to raise the price. I can't think of a way to do that that would not involve tax and entail tax evasion, black economy, crime, poaching you name it.
That is probably the only way (and that would lead to a price hike. Not the other way around).
