thnx, the advice aint for me tho, i got kicked out of a thread at o-fish for suggesting he should add an aro and a pleco to his 220g with three os when he asked what some good tankmates should be. The mod said he kiked me out for givin balatantly bad advice, was just chekin to see if i was way off since ill be gettin a similar setup for a 180g or 220g( 1 or 2 os, an aro, couple plecs and cats, 1 pike, maybe a jag).