Smallest FW Stingrays?

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jeffers;4224846; said:
yeah they will outgrow a 100 within the first year. i would say since you dont have the ray yet start looking for a bigger tank. then buy the ray.

x2. They can be a pain in the butt getting them out of the tank when they are bigger. Its worth it to wait.
 
1. P. cf. scobina.

2. p. cf. hystrix

3. p. hystrix. (argentina/paraguay)

4. p. cf. orbignyi. (colombia)

4. p. AAA marble?

5. p. boesmani?
 
scobina's are hard to find in the states.

hystrix is hit and miss but take your time and you can find.

im not sure but i thought orbs got a little bigger. could be wrong though.

what qualifies as a AAA? and why would that be different from a regular marble on size?

do we know enough about boesemani yet?

also on any of these you should be looking for a male as they dont get as big.
 
Scobina... :D
 
scobina are the smallest by far well males are

i just sold a pair and the female was about a 10inch disk and the male was about a 7 inch disk both were fully mature and breeding both were over 3 years old :D

they are hard to find but are very easy to keep
 
jeffers;4225786; said:
scobina's are hard to find in the states.

hystrix is hit and miss but take your time and you can find.

im not sure but i thought orbs got a little bigger. could be wrong though.

what qualifies as a AAA? and why would that be different from a regular marble on size?

do we know enough about boesemani yet?

also on any of these you should be looking for a male as they dont get as big.

An AAA marble has nice clear markings and a light base. Thats why they are called "clear base" in asia.

I have seen 23-25 cm boesmani males fully mature. So they must be a smaller species.

You could also say that P14´s are a smaller species.

AAA marble:

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Thanks for all the help, folks!

I honestly have not kept fish for years - reptiles, snakes in particular, kind of "took over" some years ago, LOL! I'm in Ontario, Canada, by the way.

I've kept quite few different species of fish in my younger days, though, focussing mainly on "oddballs". I used to keep silver arowanas, bichirs, Dats, snakeheads, etc...even bass and pike and trout from local creeks were kept by me back in the '70's...

Having a fair amount of experience keeping and breeding reptiles, I'm familiar with researching before buying, etc...for example, I wouldn't keep a normal Reticulated Python because they're just way too big to deal with for the average private keeper. I do keep Super Dwarf reticulated pythons, however - they grow to less than a third of the size.

Now, after re-acquainting myself with the aquarium hobby lately, I've decided that I might like to try something different - and I'm considering either nice Arowanas or stingrays (seeing as I can't have snakeheads anymore here in Ontario), and the stingrays really have my interest at the moment...

...However, as many people have noted, even the "small" species are actually quite large and they really do require an enclosure with a large footprint. I was recently doing some "visualization" using an 18" Zildjian Crash Cymbal from my drum kit, and an animal with an 18" diameter (plus tail) is quite large indeed and I can see how it would need plenty of room to move around without being cramped.

I am considering building a simple indoor pond to house one or two of the "smaller" rays. Is that viable option? If so, any tips...?

Maybe rays aren't for me after all...they certainly are tempting creatures, though...anyone who is able to keep them properly is privileged indeed.

Thanks again, everyone

Simon
 
if you are wanting to build an indoor pond then it sounds that rays are for you. i liked your size test also lol. and since you are building a pond how big are you wanting to go. figure the size of the pond out then figure what ray. i do hear some marbles stay smaller but im still curious on how you can tell what ones will. but looks like anders has an idea. so if you have some extra cash then maybe boesemani and marbles would look great. boesemani are sold in canada and he brings them in a few times a year. just figure out your pond size and get back to us to see if these are an option.
 
ultraepictom;4229030; said:
Red Reticulatus "Caqueta", hands down. Maxing out at around 12 inches in disc diameter.


Right! Caqueta is the smallest I know of. I had a 12cm adult male. With that said:
1. Extremely hard to keep.
2. Most of the vendors do not distinguish between reticulata and caqueta.

A beautiful kind - I did not succeed keeping him for long.
 
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