Snake ID, gonna be difficult

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CTU2fan;4214651; said:
Sounds like a ratsnake...could be a young black rat too, they don't turn solid black until they're well grown.
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Yeah we don't have Gray Rat Snakes in PA. It could very well be a young Black Rat or an Eastern Milk Snake.
 
not milk.
rat i believe
 
twas a rat snake. infact my wife just spotted a small one with a big full belly in our back yard. pics of that little guy will be up later. including some macro with reverse lens that i snapped :D quite difficult standing up. need a better lens too
 
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