"Snakeheads Posing No Threat"

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http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1319821.html

Snakeheads posing no threat
Non-native species good for eating

MIAMI -
Marty Arostegui forked a white fillet from his plate, dipped it in sweet Thai chili sauce and took a bite. "One of the finest fish I've had," Arostegui, a retired physician, said.

Arostegui, who has caught and eaten seafood delicacies everywhere from Suriname to Thailand, had bagged this dinner the previous day in a narrow, muddy weed-lined canal that runs along a busy highway in North Lauderdale, Fla. He served it to his family and three guests in his elegant dining room, along with white rice and salad. Everyone pronounced the entree delicious.

It was a 4 1/2-pound snakehead -- a slimy, ugly freshwater fish native to Asia that has been the scourge of fisheries managers from Florida to New York to Arkansas for the past eight years.
Despite the poisoning and draining of ponds in northeastern states and the making of possession of the live exotics a criminal offense, snakehead populations are slowly spreading from water bodies, where it is believed they were deliberately released.

Paul Shafland, who heads the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission's nonnative fish lab in Boca Raton, said the bullseye snakehead -- the only one of 25 snakehead species detected in Florida -- is found mostly in north Broward County's C-14 system.
But the dark-hued fish with the orange eye spot on its tail has spread to southern Palm Beach County, and there have been a couple of unconfirmed sightings in the Miami-Dade County area.
"The fish is here. I wish it wasn't here," Shafland said. "If we could eliminate them, we would. If you catch them, eat them. Don't release them."
But so far, the pesky exotic hasn't turned into the environmental disaster that some predicted.

Early results from the FWC's most recent electrofishing study in the C-14 (stunning fish with a mild electrical charge so they can be examined) shows that although snakeheads are abundant, they are not destroying populations of largemouth and peacock bass -- the two main gamefish species in South Florida lakes and canals.

FWC scientists using the marine version of electric cattle prods caught as many as 1.58 snakeheads per minute weighing up to 9.2 pounds.
Examining the stomach contents of 127 dead snakeheads, they found the remains of 13 of their own species plus one bluegill, 11 mosquitofish, seven warmouth, two peacock bass, several lizards, bufo toads, small turtles, a rat and a snake.No remains of largemouth bass were found.

Looking at 68 peacock bass' stomachs, the researchers found 16 snakeheads. In 41 largemouth bass, they found one.

"They seem to be complementary predators," Shafland said, referring to snakeheads versus peacocks and largemouth. "We don't see one dominating the others. I think they're all pretty much holding their own."
Arostegui agrees. An avid snakehead fisherman, he and son Martini, 16, have caught several world records on light line and fly tackle with Hollywood guide Alan Zaremba. Most were caught in an area of the C-14 the two men have dubbed the "Snake Pit."

"We see in the water a lot of Mayans [cichlids], tilapia, bass," Arostegui said. "Even though the snakeheads are there in quantity, they're not decimating everything."
On a recent Sunday excursion to a canal, Zaremba and a guest caught seven snakeheads up to 4 1/2 pounds and lost at least that many more using plastic frog lures retrieved on the surface along the banks.
Zaremba said the bite was unusually good, probably because the fish had recently completed spawning and had ceased guarding their young. "There's some over 10 pounds in here. It's just a matter of finding them," he said. "They like to ambush baits. They hang under trees, ledges and wads of grass."
 
tropheus;2546476; said:
good find mate , as we though no severe impact in florida. i suspect the reports from the rest of the us with argus to be fairly similar

cheers col

I agree. Exotics that are apex preds have a hard time competing with natives that fill the same niche. Lower down on the foodchain is a completely different story. Look at all the invasives in the US that have caused some major ecological and economic damage....none are apex predators.
 
JD7.62;2546658; said:
I agree. Exotics that are apex preds have a hard time competing with natives that fill the same niche. Lower down on the foodchain is a completely different story. Look at all the invasives in the US that have caused some major ecological and economic damage....none are apex predators.
But what about Northern snakehead? Isnt they are more aggressive than bulleye snakehead?
 
mmm yummie they're DELICIOUS!!!!

and btw! They're not ugly -___-'
 
I would suggest that while they may not have an affect on gamefish populations, that they're quite capable of damaging more sensitive populations of small native fish (that's if there are any left out that way). The effects of an introduced species in an ecosystem consisting of a large number of exotics does not operate in the same manner as an endemic, or at least, more 'native based' ecosystem.

It's not the big fish you have to worry about, it's all the little stuff and what they do for the entire ecosystem. Having said that, stocking large numbers of native predators into a body of water that they were previously not prevalent in before will have a similar effect.
 
MN_Rebel;2546788; said:
But what about Northern snakehead? Isnt they are more aggressive than bulleye snakehead?




bullseye marulia is more than likley the most aggresive channa there is.and also the largest , a argus would be maybe similar but certainly not more aggresive.




a lot of countries where they where introduced have come to love them and see them for the great sports fishing and food fish that they are. there has been no reports of widespread damage to any introduced eco-system. they have been in hawaii since early 1900s



the only place that has reported a massive loss of native species is madagascar , people there seam to blame the snakehead for the loss of all the native cichlids , i have yet to see any proof that snakeheads caused the loss of all native fish there ( maybe they can blame them for all the animals that have been lost or are endangered there also ), personally i think madagascar have far more problems than snakeheads and they are being used as a scapegoat.


i dont deny they will have some impact , but lots of fish will feed on snakehead young and so there numbers will also raise , it will eventually even its self out. i would still argue that any other aquarium fish could potentailly cause the same amout of damage to an eco-system - but every other aquarium fish is not outlawed
 
Hi, I think that only time will tell for sure what impact snakeheads have on native species.My opinion is that they have little or no negative impact on native species.
 
Still, Florida are not good example that snakehead pose no threat to our native populations...maybe thats because there are too many exotics in Florida. But what about other areas that do not have exotics? Sure you dont see any cichlids or tilapia in northern United States. Hawaiian freshwater fishes are threatening by any exotic fishes included the snakeheads....so it doesnt help out the snakehead very much.
 
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