So...Kelberi stay small huh?

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Thought I'd rile it up. There are various tucunare Amarelho, Kelberi..this thing is big, yes the guy is holding it out, but that is a big cichla all around...girth included.

I think Kelberi still need to broken down further. Ceara's in the wild are just like we see in the hobby. Relatively small with a slender build to them, as opposed to the 'stocky ' build of an Orino, or Piquiti.
 
I think that fish is 20-22" long. Yeah he is holding it out but his hand would have to be 3" wide for that fish to 15" long. It is a large fish.
 
Superlaz;4796393; said:
Thought I'd rile it up. There are various tucunare Amarelho, Kelberi..this thing is big, yes the guy is holding it out, but that is a big cichla all around...girth included.

I think Kelberi still need to broken down further. Ceara's in the wild are just like we see in the hobby. Relatively small with a slender build to them, as opposed to the 'stocky ' build of an Orino, or Piquiti.


:D Yes sir you are causing a mental and visual over load for those with one tank! LOL


Laz are you saying true Kelberi grow slower? Remain smaller at adult size?
 
Dons had some 18" 20" cichla ceara I saw in person massive, I think wilds will grow larger then all these captive bahia's the bahia breeders look to be in the 14"-16" range wouldn't you agree..?
 
PSA;4797104;4797104 said:
Dons had some 18" 20" cichla ceara I saw in person massive, I think wilds will grow larger then all these captive bahia's the bahia breeders look to be in the 14"-16" range wouldn't you agree..?
Because they're kept in small tanks. The old saying 'fish grow to the size of their environment' may seem absurd, but it does have some truth to it.
 
I think its one of two things, - the various kelberi populations from different locale attain different sizes, as is seen with some Piquiti, Temensis, etc.

Or what we know as kelberi in the hobby may in fact be two or three different species.

Ill post pics later today to expand on my thoughts, but you're welcome to post your own as well ;)
 
Superlaz;4797338; said:
I think its one of two things, - the various kelberi populations from different locale attain different sizes, as is seen with some Piquiti, Temensis, etc.

Or what we know as kelberi in the hobby may in fact be two or three different species.

Ill post pics later today to expand on my thoughts, but you're welcome to post your own as well ;)

I agree, for example look at scats kelberis, their appearance is very different then some of the others. His fish are over 4 years old if I'm not mistaking, he leaves as many gold fish in the tank as they please to eat and I think they are no bigger then 12 inches.

The marking on the big boy in the beginning of this thread are similar to some of the other big kelberis that I have seen in the past. They have 3 distinct bars like a monoculus and lack any kind of marbleized or snake skin patterns through out their bodies. I've also noticed that most of these have smaller spangles on their fins..

This is just a quick observation of mine. I can go on and on about distinct markings that could help categories different kinds of kelberis. After researching, you start to notice the same traits and markings within groups of kelberis.
 
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