some info. about longnose gar.

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demjor19;1846793; said:
why not give them more than 5' in tank length?

actually now that i think about it little more a pond would be better for them.
 
city_of_evil6661;1847035; said:
actually now that i think about it little more a pond would be better for them.

is that what your plans are when your longnose outgrows your 75 gallon in a few more months?
 
im getting a bigger tank for him and cant get a pond till the next couple of years. but i think he will be fine. but if i do that means im gonnna have to have 2 ponds for gars. cuz when i get the gator it will be the only fish in the pond.
 
city_of_evil6661;1847832; said:
im getting a bigger tank for him and cant get a pond till the next couple of years. but i think he will be fine. but if i do that means im gonnna have to have 2 ponds for gars. cuz when i get the gator it will be the only fish in the pond.

when are you planning on this upgrade? you do realize that a fish with the ability to reach 36" is not going to last long at all in a 75 gallon tank...especially when the fish is already 16" long. that leaves roughtly 2" to turn in the tank, while the fish continues to grow. i would stronly suggest working on getting him that larger tank. too small of a tank can kill them just as easily as too large of a tank.
 
demjor19;1847872; said:
when are you planning on this upgrade? you do realize that a fish with the ability to reach 36" is not going to last long at all in a 75 gallon tank...especially when the fish is already 16" long. that leaves roughtly 2" to turn in the tank, while the fish continues to grow. i would stronly suggest working on getting him that larger tank. too small of a tank can kill them just as easily as too large of a tank.

well i have 94 of the 330 i need to buy the tank. and im in the process of finding a job to upgrade quicker. i could try to make a temp. pond until i get the upgrade.
 
city_of_evil6661;1845937; said:
L. osseus like all gar are lepisosteids. which come from the family lepisostidae.

size- in the wild they can reach anywhere from 3 to 5'. but stay anywhere from 24 to 36" in the home aquarium. which makes this gar not very suitable for a beginner gar keeper.

tank info- (do's and dont's) they require a tank size of about 5x3x2 but when smaller they should be in a tank giving them enough room to turn. never put a small longnose gar in a large tank. cuz if they are spooked they are likely to crash into the tank and break thier back. sometimes resulting in death. they need swimming room and just enough room to turn.

feeding-feeding should consist of a varied diet. such as prawns, krill, pellets, or any prepared food. feeders arent recomended as they can carry parasites. goldfish in particular are high in fat and not very healthy for the fish. feeders are probably better for small gar as they are very fragile and can die if they dont have a continuous supply of food.

if any of this info is inaccurate feel free to correct it.
i dont really agree with your tank do n donts at all... first the bigger the tank the better. if you have a small gar you should only have specific fish that are suitable with a gars slow behavior. only giving them enough room to turn with stress them out and cause them to smash in the walls more consistantly from lack of room. there should be a tank completely dedicated to growing out gars.. never put them in your main tank with bigger fish because they will die from not being able to compete with food so its best off to keep baby gars with other baby gars and other small slow moving fish or bottom dwellers that are not in the race to get food. max tank size is offf as well. a 3 foot fish should never have a 3 foot wide tank. even though its said the width should be at least the length of the fish gars are not as flexible as say an aro and need more room to turn in a broader slower motion.. just my 2 sense. what kind of gars u got?
 
city_of_evil6661;1846779; said:
dont really know much about these but i will research them.

good idea, maybe you should have done that before doing a thread giving advise on something you havent researched on?:confused::D
 
demjor19;1846712; said:
i cant wait for the cuban and tropical!!! i expect some great info!

oh and while he's on it, you think we could get some on crac gar II too?
 
justink;1850816; said:
i dont really agree with your tank do n donts at all... first the bigger the tank the better. if you have a small gar you should only have specific fish that are suitable with a gars slow behavior. only giving them enough room to turn with stress them out and cause them to smash in the walls more consistantly from lack of room. there should be a tank completely dedicated to growing out gars.. never put them in your main tank with bigger fish because they will die from not being able to compete with food so its best off to keep baby gars with other baby gars and other small slow moving fish or bottom dwellers that are not in the race to get food. max tank size is offf as well. a 3 foot fish should never have a 3 foot wide tank. even though its said the width should be at least the length of the fish gars are not as flexible as say an aro and need more room to turn in a broader slower motion.. just my 2 sense. what kind of gars u got?

when i say 'just enough rooom to turn' i dont mean leave just a few inches. for a gar the width of the tank should be about twice the size of the fish. and the gars i have are 3 longnose (2 babies) and a F/S.
 
''oh and while he's on it, you think we could get some on crac gar II too?''
hybrid gars
Lepisosteus platostomus x Atractosteus spatula- Crocodile gar type I
Lepisosteus platyrhincus or oculatus x Atractosteus spatula-Crocidile gar type 2
Four known types exist both in wild and cultivated varieties:
Atractosteus spatula X Lepisosteus platostomus (Croc gar type I)
A. spatula X L. platyrhinchus (Croc gar type II)
A. spatula X L. oculatus
A. spatula X L. osseus
There is a strong possiability of A.spatula X A. tropicus from mexican aquacultured fish
These are fairly new hybrids and not much is really know about them as far as size etc.
maybe Sol or Richard have more information after all they are the Gar Guys-Anne
 
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