South American (Only) 125 Suggestions.....

[nuth88]

DaveB

Where will the orangeheads and peachface go?

As of this weekend I'm ready to house whoever you can no longer hold. No more space restrictions... I have a whole giant laundry room of space for growout tanks!

For a standard footprint 125, honestly if those altifrons and abalios are getting large enough to be featured, I'd say just let those guys be the centerpiece and surround them with the smaller orangeheads. As long as they're not powerfed they won't grow as quickly and I do kind of like the look that my tank has right now with 7 larger 5+" eartheaters and 10 little guys roaming around. I wouldn't go over three eartheater species. As I've become a huge fan of Uaru lately I'd say a happy pair or three of those would make good upper level fish. I might know where to get some Uaru Fernandezyepezi locally, actually.

What would be perfect would be to add those massive abalios for sale to your existing guys and just let those be the focus of the tank and add nothing else... but those are prohibitively expensive for you like they are for me, I assume.
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Dave~

I don't have the Peachface yet, and I have found that the OH are not strong enough, I'm not sure if it is the albios, or the alfitrons, but I have lost 3 of tuans, have 2 of his left and 2 of yours sepertated, was planning on giving them their own 75 as the big male I got from you, if just that, stunning, but does not like competition, and eliminated the other male, and chases the 3rd male down, but with others in the tank, he has mellowed, I may swap him to wenger for some fry, as he lost his show male, and needs a breeder, but they can't run with the big dog's, I have found. I have not gotten the peachface yet, that is a classic pickup, I got the megasema (12) and they are still growing out in their own 75 (with the 6x-H.appendicultus) but will be ready soon, I was planning on splitting that group and giving you 6 of the 12. Ill post some shots tonight, now that they are in a better tank, they are growing fast for a Geo.

Buy those Albios that are on the Classifieds? I have access to another group of 4, but am trying to mix it up a little bit...and your assumption on cost would be correct, shatting hundreds is not something I can do....LOL! I am liking the Sant's idea, but am trying to find some now.....loser! LOL! I may have to scrap my albios, and aliftrons and start small, since that will give me many more choices, agree? You interested in 4 stunner Albios or some Rio Tocantins Green Alfies?
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Japes
4x2 footprint 125?

I think you're more than filled up as it is personally, even to the point where the altifrons and abalios are going to be fairly cramped when they're nearing the 30cm/12" mark (which will be a while of course).
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Japes~

It is a 72" (6') x18" (1.5') x24" (2')

Nuthman~

 

[DaveB]

Based on my adult OH's behavior I never would've guessed they can't hang with the others. Interesting to know. That might affect my plans for the giant tank. Then again, the plan was to massively overstock it, so that'd solve aggression based on the theory that too many is confusing to the predator (this is how my distichodus was able to be kept with eartheaters at the store).

I think that that male of mine is just at that adolescent age right now that makes him a real bastard. I assume it will pass. The others from his batch are going at it non stop right now. Luckily there are 10 so nobody gets singled out. All but two are stressed though and showing the darker body coloration.

Swapping with Don is a good idea. He had emailed me about that batch though and didn't think they were big enough yet last swap. But he can always just wait a few months, it's clear he's getting close to sexual maturity.

If you like the satanoperca why not try Leucosticta? They're easier to find, better looking than the jurupari (only reason I am getting Pete's is cause I already have the one big one and I feel bad for making it lonely), and definitely get along fine with the orangeheads.

 

[nuth88]

Based on my adult OH's behavior I never would've guessed they can't hang with the others. Interesting to know. That might affect my plans for the giant tank. Then again, the plan was to massively overstock it, so that'd solve aggression based on the theory that too many is confusing to the predator (this is how my distichodus was able to be kept with eartheaters at the store).

I think that that male of mine is just at that adolescent age right now that makes him a real bastard. I assume it will pass. The others from his batch are going at it non stop right now. Luckily there are 10 so nobody gets singled out. All but two are stressed though and showing the darker body coloration.

Swapping with Don is a good idea. He had emailed me about that batch though and didn't think they were big enough yet last swap. But he can always just wait a few months, it's clear he's getting close to sexual maturity.

If you like the satanoperca why not try Leucosticta? They're easier to find, better looking than the jurupari (only reason I am getting Pete's is cause I already have the one big one and I feel bad for making it lonely), and definitely get along fine with the orangeheads.

Think about this tho, in my 220, I have massively overstocked to reduce aggression, and clean it like a MoFo, and still the OH's are effected, I have the Nieva (Steiny), Albios, Alfies, and OH's and they Lost....I would go with either of the Sants or Leucos's....But I have to find them...Locally....

Don is going to take the Big Male....Helps me out....Then I GO a batch of Juvis in a 30 for a few weeks, and then move them to their own 75 long term....Will you be in for the Megas soon? (Well when you see some shots that is)

 

[DaveB]

Damn. Well I guess that rules out altifrons for me. Even in a giant tank I don't want to take the risk. No matter what the orangeheads will always be my favorites, and the last thing I need is for my original ones to be under attack, stressed, and not showing their orange.

I can take the megas any time after this weekend. Whenever you need the space.

 

[nuth88]

Dave~

This is just IMHO....It may work for some, but it did not 4 me...