Starry Night eel stopped eating.

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Libpete

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At what point should I be worried about an eel not eating? My starry night eel has always been a regular eater but has suddenly stopped eating any of his fave foods, nothing at all. He just turns his head and ducks under the sand.
Only different thing I did recently was add a 3 day dose of esha Gastropex snail killer. No other fish are affected and the eel looks normal otherwise. The tank has had two big changes since that but still nothing.

Edit: Should add its been 2 weeks.
 
What kind of snail killer was it? Spiny eels can be very sensitive to medications, especially copper based ones. I've had planted tanks completely overrun with snails, but I have never resorted to using snail killers, because chances are, something that's specifically made to kill things, just might not be too good for your fish, especially scaleless ones. Spiny eels are known to contract skin disorders, which is why it is recommended to half or even quarter the recommendation for medications.

It may not be the medication however, but determining at what point you should be worried depends on how old the fish is, and how healthy it is. My 19" spiny eel could go about 6-8 weeks without eating without to huge amount of long term damage, but 4 weeks is where I would start to worry, whereas my 5" spiny eel could probably go a month at the very most without eating, and I would probably be a bit concerned at the two week mark.

Have you tried live foods? Chopped earthworms (they still move after being cut, so I count it as live), or small worms you could probably find digging a few inches deep outside, small feeders (feeder guppies, white cloud mountain minnows, ghost shrimp, endlers, ect), live black worms (be careful where you get them from, they often can be raised/bred in rather unsanitary conditions, unless you're getting it straight from the source and you definitely know they're being kept in the proper conditions, I would advise staying away from them), live blood worms is a great option, brine shrimp, anything live that'll fit into your eels mouth, really.

If after a week you eel still isn't eating I would advise putting it in a hospital tank and treating for internal parasites and dosing the tank with probiotics. You could probably even put it in quarantine now, because if it is the medication then getting him out of there may be a good idea, if you don't already have one, and you are willing to set one up, just don't use the water from the current aquarium. As long as you have decent filtration and you keep an eye on your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels than there shouldn't be a problem.

*Addition- Just saw that you named the snail treatment, I've Googled the name you gave for the snail treatment and was unable to find anything regarding what's in it.
 
Thank you for the reply Chaos. Ive looked at the snail treatment leaflet and there is nothing about ingredients on there.

The eel is definitely over a year old, and is a good 14" long which is nearing maximum size for these little starry night eels. He has always been very healthy, and when he comes out of the sand I always check over his body and I was told about their sensitivity to skin problems/parasites etc. It just didnt cross my mind to check about the eel and the snail treatment until after id dosed it, which I am regretting. He is acting very normal though just not eating.

Being a finicky eater and only eating foods that are worm like in size, his diet consists of bloodworms and live earthworms (brought from a bait shop and always been safe, my featherfin loves them too). He will eat mysis shrimp but they are so small they make a mess and get everywhere. I know the diet isnt the problem because he has readily accepted these foods by hand (earthworms) since he was a baby.

I will take your advice if after another week he hasnt eaten anything and ill put him into a quarantine tank and seek further advice on meds.

Thanks alot, ill update.
 
Hi there, I apologize for not posting back, the past few days just flew by, I'm surprised the ingredients aren't on the packaging, that's a bit odd, then again I couldn't find anything on it either. - I definitely know the feeling of adding something into your aquarium without the thought of it hurting your fish crossing the mind, I'm pretty sure we all have done it, at least once.

A thought just crossed my mind, which actually has recently been happening to my fire eel, he slowed down on his intake of food lately, normally he'd have about a quarter cup of fresh and frozen food each feeding (every second day), but that slowly went to a tablespoon or so, I had noticed that his slime coat was slightly damaged and I just figured he rubbed up against something a little too rough. About a month prior to that, I added a 14" Sailfin pleco to my aquarium, normally I won't keep Sailfins or common plecos in that tank because they've had a history of sucking the slime coat off my eel and bichirs, I honestly didn't even think of that, there was just no room for it in my 120 gallon cichlid tank due to there being a lot of rocks and driftwood, he didn't have much room to move, and he was being aggressively attacked by them as well, so out of the cichlid tank and into my oddball tank it went. After a little while I suspected the pleco was sucking on him because the damages were only getting worse, and this morning I finally caught the pleco sucking on Squishy's head, so I ended up taking the pleco out and put him in a bucket because I have nowhere else to put it. This has actually happened a few times, a four times with plecos (it NEVER got this bad though, he is just not well at all), and he's been bullied by a large synodontis catfish to the point where he wasn't eating. -In summation, Squishy is usually a fish that all the others ignores, but when he gets picked on there's not much that he can do to defend himself, so he will then get stressed and stop eating, but still act fairly normal, not as interactive with me though. As I said, I've had problems with aggressive synodontis catfish before, one of them being a featherfin squeaker, and I see you also have a pleco, so perhaps it would be a good idea to just sit and watch the tank, and see how the other fish interact with him. It can be difficult to see breaks in the slime coat, on my eel, it's not that hard because he is black for the most part, what you could do is take a flash light and hold it up to the tank when your eel is out and about. Also, just out of curiosity, has your eel ever sat in a "C" shape? With his tail end on the ground, body curved and head facing downwards? Or have you seen it "spaz" out, for no reason, or perhaps rub himself on the substrate and/or decor? If it is the pleco doing it, those would probably be the signs to look for, and if it's the synodontis then it can be difficult to pick out any signs that it's happening, the only way to know for sure would be to just watch for it.

Regarding the mysis shrimp, most of it that's available are indeed quite small, however, I found "Large Mysis Shrimp" I'm trying to think of something it can be compared to, however, nothing comes to mind, but I can definitely tell you, they're much larger than blood worms, they would be comparable to small krill, I believe Hikari makes it, you can Google it. It can be difficult to find at the stores, I actually have to get them to order it in, but it is the PERFECT size for cichlids, bichirs, rope fish, clown knife, and medium catfish, also my spiny eels love it, it's a bit small for Squishy's big mouth, but I'll often gather some up in hand and let Squishy eat them all at once.
 
Well now that you mention it I do have a 15" common pleco and a 7" featherfin catfish in the same tank but as the eel spends 99% of his time under the sand with just his head sticking out, I know they are not the problem. If they come across his head he just ducks under the sand if they bother him.
However, you have alerted me to who may be. I have a pair of kribensis and the male kribs passion has been intensifying lately. He is now willingly attacking the large red tailed shark whereas he used to hide all the time. He bit a tentacle off of my mother apple snail and I have also seen him attacking the eel once or twice. The only fish he is scared of is the catfish. So you think the male krib could be stressing him right out?
Today I will get the eel out in to the open for a good check over. He did eat a couple of bloodworms the other day but he normally gorges on them so nothing really changing.
 
Thought I best point out the apple snail was not in the tank at the time of the snail killer :)
 
Glad you took you apple snail out prior to dosing the tank! Also very happy to hear your eel ate something, a little is better than absolutely nothing, that little bit of food that he ate may have given you a bit more time to figure out what's wrong with him. Unfortunately my fire eel, Squishy passed last night, I got the pleco out too late, I don't quite yet understand completely what happened, but I'm heart broken that he's gone, he was definitely my favorite and most social fish. With that being said, just be careful not to wait too long if it is an aggression issue. Because it took me so long to put two and two together I now am filled with regret and disappointment. - I would recommend setting up a small aquarium and separating your eel, it may take a few days for him to adjust, however, they're usually pretty good at settling in new environments, as long as the water quality is good, and there are places to hide, they're happy. If your eel does start eating it may confirm that it is being bullied.

Keep me updated, and let me know what you decide, and what happens. Good luck.
 
So sorry to hear of your eel passing, very sad.

Ive just put some bloodworm in next to him and he is eating it very slowly and very obviously in discomfort. I think he defintely has an internal problem. Im going to do some research on any treatment if any. Hope he will be okay.
 
In that case, I would go with internal parasites, I'm pretty sure you can get medication that treats most of them, just make sure there's nothing harmful in it, to half the dose.
 
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