Start of Angel Fish collection

[ewurm]

Not likely.

They not only survive in hard water they also breed in it.

The only type of Angel I know that requires really soft water are wild caught Altums. Even that specie can be acclimated to hard water. Altums may not breed in hard water but they can be acclimated to it. I have six that i've kept for over three years now in Municipal water that some folks have considered to be too hard it might as well be solid rock.

I have a dozen pairs of domesticated angels breeding in the same municipal water.

Alright, lets figure it out.

Nitrate 20
total hardness 175 ppm
alkalinity 40 ppm
pH 6.8
temp 84 deg f
tankmates: Roseline sharks, loaches
diet: Offered flake, bloodworms

 

[softturtle]

Sorry to hear about the angel. The water looks ok. Did it start eating when you brought it home? I would start with a bunch of small ones next time.

 

[ewurm]

Sorry to hear about the angel. The water looks ok. Did it start eating when you brought it home? I would start with a bunch of small ones next time.

Ate a couple of bloodworms, that's about it. It was only alive for 2 days though. I dripped it for an hour. Could have been a pH swing anyway. The pH at the store is low.

 

[JuanTamad]

Alright, lets figure it out.

Nitrate 20
total hardness 175 ppm
alkalinity 40 ppm
pH 6.8
temp 84 deg f
tankmates: Roseline sharks, loaches
diet: Offered flake, bloodworms

The water parameters and tankmates by themselves does not seem that they may cause problem.

You indicated that PH swing might have something to do with it in another post. That's possible, although that one hour drip might have helped acclimate them your water unless the PH swing is biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig.

Some Discus breeders actually debunk theories about PH swings causing problems. These guys actually prefer no acclimation and support with great passion that it is actually better just to flop and dump newly arrived Angel Fish in their new home. Seen them accuse veteran/professional Angel breeders as fish murderers for promoting the drip method.

My only concern about what happened was there was no quarantine for your newly arrived Angel. My experience with Angels is that when they are stressed they are susceptible to all kinds of problems. Typically, I quarantine them anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks before they are introduced to a tank with other fish or even other angels.

 

[ewurm]

The water parameters and tankmates by themselves does not seem that they may cause problem.

You indicated that PH swing might have something to do with it in another post. That's possible, although that one hour drip might have helped acclimate them your water unless the PH swing is biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig.

Some Discus breeders actually debunk theories about PH swings causing problems. These guys actually prefer no acclimation and support with great passion that it is actually better just to flop and dump newly arrived Angel Fish in their new home. Seen them accuse veteran/professional Angel breeders as fish murderers for promoting the drip method.

My only concern about what happened was there was no quarantine for your newly arrived Angel. My experience with Angels is that when they are stressed they are susceptible to all kinds of problems. Typically, I quarantine them anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks before they are introduced to a tank with other fish or even other angels.

I agree that quarantine was needed, and it was missing. I don't think we'll know what happened from the params.

 

[Wilder06]

Nice fish

 

[Aquaman_95]

Nice Angelfish!

 

[ewurm]

Nice Angelfish!

It's dead.

 

[fourty2]

Gutting ewurm,was a nice looking angel..hope you have more success next time

 

[ewurm]

Gutting ewurm,was a nice looking angel..hope you have more success next time

Died for no apparent reason within 24 hours. Read through the thread, all params were normal for Angels.