Steel & glass tank idea

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I've got an idea for a homemade steel and glass tank and want to get everyone's thoughts, concerns and suggestions. I'd hate to spend time and money designing and planning if there is a fatal flaw in the concept. I've searched MFK and the web and have never seen a tank like what I'm thinking of building, which either means I'll either have a one-of-a-kind tank or look like an idiot!

Let me preface this by saying that I'm an engineer and work at a crane manufacturing plant so I think better in steel and weld than in screws and plywood. It also means I have access (at cost) to steel, cnc lasers, pressbrakes and welders.

I'd like to build a freshwater tank in the 300-400 gallon range constructed entirely of steel with glass windows. I'm thinking the main frame would be cut and bent sheet metal sections welded together and powder coated black (built in black background!). The windows (front and sides) would be flat glass panes held in by stainless fasteners every few inches and sealed with silicone, hopefully give it the porthole window look. I'd like the windows to be as large as possible, picture a glass tank with a 2" or 3" black metal border and stainless bolt heads all around. Being metal would make it very easy to build in extras like overflows, bulkheads, tops, lighting mounts, the stand, etc.

The obvious main concern is corrosion. I will have to do some research, powder coat is pretty durable but I'm not sure about in a submerged environment. If our powder wouldn't be sufficient corrosion protection I can always coat the inside with an epoxy paint or something like most ply tanks have.
I'm not concerned about it structurally, steel is much stronger than glass. I will do some hand calcs and FEA to make sure a final design will be sound. The bottom and sides will be much thinner than a glass tank, so I may need to have some bracing to prevent bowing. Without completing the design I don't know what she would weigh, but I really think I can make it comparable or lighter than an all glass tank and at a fraction of the cost!

If I decide to build the "Metal Monster" it would probably be sometime this spring. Let me know what you think!
 
Would food grade stainless steel be an option? Don't know what you can get access to working with cranes, but that would be your best bet agnaist corrosion. Any stainless should work, but if you don't use at least food grade welds I'd be concerned about the weld leaching into the tank.
 
i am currently building a similar tank. waiting until i get my 1st house in the next few weeks though. you can see my metal frame if you search "metal monster 650" im having some bowing issues in my steel so learn from my mistakes on that. there is also another member who has an entire steel tank like you are talking about. It is all stainless steel including bottom, back and sides. there are like 20 aros in it ill try and find a pic of it. search for that aswell
 
not the aro tank i was talking about still looking....but heres some different ideas out there

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wednesday13;3797383; said:
i am currently building a similar tank. waiting until i get my 1st house in the next few weeks though. you can see my metal frame if you search "metal monster 650" im having some bowing issues in my steel so learn from my mistakes on that. there is also another member who has an entire steel tank like you are talking about. It is all stainless steel including bottom, back and sides. there are like 20 aros in it ill try and find a pic of it. search for that aswell

Sweet start! I can't believe I didn't find your thread before I posted, subscribed. Seeing your bottom cross brace brings up one concern I have which is warping during welding. It's going to happen, almost impossible to avoid and still get good penetration with the weld. I'm affraid if the windows are at all out of plane the glass pane will have to flex slightly, acrylic may be a better choice. I can't wait to see your finished tank!
 
I think as long as you properly braced for the potential bulge issue, steel would be better than plywood in many repects. In fact, if you could make it in SS then it would be superior IMHO.
 
sirdavidofdiscus;3797350; said:
Would food grade stainless steel be an option? Don't know what you can get access to working with cranes, but that would be your best bet agnaist corrosion. Any stainless should work, but if you don't use at least food grade welds I'd be concerned about the weld leaching into the tank.

Stainless is possible but would be much more difficult. Our lasers are set up to cut mild steel, to cut stainless you need to use nitrogen as a cut gas which we aren't setup for. I could still purchase the parts from a local metal shop though. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
i dont know how durable powder coat is but use could use what the plywood builders use. im a lisenced welder i never get to use my skills because im getting my degree in civil engineering and drafting depending on how ur tank goes i might go make myself one
 
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