Michael H;2347478; said:
maybe cheaper than c.b. rays from some places, but much much more than before. if i were a fisherman, or wholesaler, I'd want to sell them for as much as I can too...
Stingray Export Ban cancellation
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maybe cheaper than c.b. rays from some places, but much much more than before. if i were a fisherman, or wholesaler, I'd want to sell them for as much as I can too...
I'll see it when I believe it. From what I can see it is getting more stringent across the
board.
board.
csx4236;2347533; said:
haha i dont take about prices from some crazy european breeders or in Asia.
For example you less leo pups in us market for xxxx$ and brazil prices will be in beginning xxx$ for 8" Leo. I think is a different
. But still the shipping costs and the risk and this will be in first time big problem, i think exporters try to make fast money and ship even weak fishes.
I think rays are becoming like the next "asian" arowana. the more countries ban them, the higher the prices will be. one difference is that rays breed more readily.
the asian countries like Indonesia reaped much profit from controlling and breeding the asian arowana, and keeping the prices and quality high.
the asian countries like Indonesia reaped much profit from controlling and breeding the asian arowana, and keeping the prices and quality high.
I have long argued the prices of Black rays here since the ban ... And thought for along time that the breeders and (Vendors) like CSX (example vendor) Had huge outrageous prices.. And lame excuses for such prices
But... I have watched the things that those people go through to get pups... And it isn't like cichlids... A ray doesn't just spawn profusely. A ray does not produce 100-500 pups per spawn and every 3 weeks ... Raising rays may be simpler than they lead on
But spawning and raising pups isn't.. Plus supply and demand is a good explanation.. Personally I do not like the prices.. But I feel after the last few years of watching and studying what the guys breeding these are going through; and have went through, that the prices are COMPLETELY justified
To end.. All You Breeder/Sellers that I have given hard time over the prices and excuses.. I apologize This doesn't mean I will start being nice 
I am still JEALOUS and may still hate on ya a little But now it will be just given ya a hard time
But... I have watched the things that those people go through to get pups... And it isn't like cichlids... A ray doesn't just spawn profusely. A ray does not produce 100-500 pups per spawn and every 3 weeks ... Raising rays may be simpler than they lead on
But spawning and raising pups isn't.. Plus supply and demand is a good explanation.. Personally I do not like the prices.. But I feel after the last few years of watching and studying what the guys breeding these are going through; and have went through, that the prices are COMPLETELY justified
To end.. All You Breeder/Sellers that I have given hard time over the prices and excuses.. I apologize
This doesn't mean I will start being nice I am still JEALOUS and may still hate on ya a little But now it will be just given ya a hard time Tongue33;2347826; said:I have long argued the prices of Black rays here since the ban ... And thought for along time that the breeders and (Vendors) like CSX (example vendor) Had huge outrageous prices.. And lame excuses for such prices
But... I have watched the things that those people go through to get pups... And it isn't like cichlids... A ray doesn't just spawn profusely. A ray does not produce 100-500 pups per spawn and every 3 weeks ... Raising rays may be simpler than they lead on
But spawning and raising pups isn't.. Plus supply and demand is a good explanation.. Personally I do not like the prices.. But I feel after the last few years of watching and studying what the guys breeding these are going through; and have went through, that the prices are COMPLETELY justified
To end.. All You Breeder/Sellers that I have given hard time over the prices and excuses.. I apologize
Glad to see people realizing this is not all profit and glory. Breeding rays is very expensive and stocking a facility with top quality animals is nearly impossible and so very expensive. Hating is fine even I hate sometimes
If they release the rays from Brazil ,by the time maybe Mike have moved ahead of them by using artificial insemination.
